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FC

01-05-2005 07:51:52




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I recently came across a gentlemen at work who has a NH 850 baler he is no longer using, and might be willing to part with. He says it needs a couple of the floor chains and that one is missing - lost in field and never found. This was the reason for parking the baler, and it has sat in a shed until this winter when he pulled it out to make room for other items. I have tried to get him to price it to me, but so far he keeps trying to get me to find him a JD haybine of some sort for parts in trade. I doubt I can find the mower he is after, and would like to make him an offer. What is a fair price for his baler. Also, will a Ford 5000 diesel pull this baler ok? Thanks in advance for any advice.

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old

01-05-2005 22:04:57




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 Re: New Holland 850 value in reply to FC, 01-05-2005 07:51:52  
A place not to far from me them selling for $795 you pick, all of them are field ready. Just some look worse then others.



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Kelly C

01-05-2005 22:16:00




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 Re: New Holland 850 value in reply to old, 01-05-2005 22:04:57  
Where are you at? It must be dump time on the $850's now? Heck I might get one for that price for a back up/ parts store.



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old

01-05-2005 22:29:55




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 Re: New Holland 850 value in reply to Kelly C, 01-05-2005 22:16:00  
I'm in Missouri The place is Klein tractor in Versaillies Mo. 1-800-335-3941. If I had the money right now I would probably get another one from him just for a back up for the one I got from them a couple years ago. I do have one little problem with the 850 I have, it packs it in so tight that it is all I can do to get a spike in a bale and most of the weigh more then 2000lbs



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FC

01-06-2005 06:07:24




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 Re: New Holland 850 value in reply to old, 01-05-2005 22:29:55  
old...I may check them out. I am just up the road a few miles from them (and you). Might be worth a look. Thanks



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old

01-06-2005 11:11:31




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 Re: New Holland 850 value in reply to FC, 01-06-2005 06:07:24  
So far every thing I have gotten from them was good, other then like I said on that 850 it seems to pack in the hay tighter then it should. Seems to make only half the bales that it should or in other words it packs in the hay so tight that it puts 2 bales in one.



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Kelly C

01-06-2005 14:28:22




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 Re: New Holland 850 value in reply to old, 01-06-2005 11:11:31  
It should not be making a 2000 pound bale. You need to fix some thing, not sure what but am sure your baler will come apart in short order over stuffing it.



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old

01-06-2005 18:13:31




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 Re: New Holland 850 value in reply to Kelly C, 01-06-2005 14:28:22  
Been doing that ever since I got it, I've tried to lossen it up some but so far hasn't worked. I'm not really sure of the weight but when I try to pick up a bale with my ford 801 front end loader its all it will do to pick one up with out the back tires comeing up off the ground. At first I figured it was because I was useing to big of a tractor(allis XT190) since I have gone to an Oliver S88 but it still makes them heavy.

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Kelly C

01-05-2005 21:59:07




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 Re: New Holland 850 value in reply to FC, 01-05-2005 07:51:52  
I picked up a NH850 this fall at a auction for $600. Around here that is a very good price. Most Nh850 are selling for $1500 to $2000 here if the chains are good.
If the chains are good is the main factor in price. A new floor chain is going to run a few bucks and there are 8 of them. In my parts book it looks like you can buy just a section of the chain top or bottom if needed. Also look at the leaf springs that are just behind the floor chain at the back of the chaimber. I havent priced those yet but mine are worn to the nubs. I suspect those are important to get a good bale.

Many many Farmers around here are still using the chain balers, Hence the higher prices. But in my opinion if you are going to roll with a old baler might as well use one that you know for sure will roll. A NH850 will roll when you need to roll.
almost Lost some hay last year to a belt baler that wouldnt roll the hay when it got too dry. Had to break out the square baler and bale way more squares than I was ready or had help to do to beat the rain.

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newname

01-05-2005 13:14:05




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 Re: New Holland 850 value in reply to FC, 01-05-2005 07:51:52  
FC,

I have a NH chain baler like that one. Not only should you pay attention to the chains - big apron chain and floor chains, but also check to make sure that the floor is not all rusted out. You can get new sheet metal for it, but it is a pain to work on.
I have a diesel Ford 5000 that I use on mine. It works fine, but it does snort once the bale is just about done. Snorts even more when full and going up a hill. It is kind of nice, cuz you can judge how full it is just by the sound of the engine.
The bales are not real tight and look kinda sloppy, but you really have to be trying to plug that thing up. It will eat anything including cornstalks.
I wouldn't pay much more than $500 -$700 for it unless everything else is in real good condition. You will probably put a minimum of $200 into it just to get it going.
Good luck.

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smirkey

01-05-2005 12:16:23




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 Re: New Holland 850 value in reply to FC, 01-05-2005 07:51:52  
yea, but i hear that a 850 makes a tight bale, actually maybe better than the 851. i would buy one if the chaINS WERE GOOD.



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James in NC

01-05-2005 10:04:21




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 Re: New Holland 850 value in reply to FC, 01-05-2005 07:51:52  
If you were to trade the baler in you would get about $500 so I would think about that when making an offer.



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Larry in Pa.

01-05-2005 10:28:54




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 Re: New Holland 850 value in reply to James in NC, 01-05-2005 10:04:21  
Make sure the apron chains aren't completly worn out. A new set of chains cost more than the balers are worth. Breaking one of these chains with a bale in it is a long hard repair. Don't offer too much.



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old

01-05-2005 08:08:53




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 Re: New Holland 850 value in reply to FC, 01-05-2005 07:51:52  
In my area I can get a working 850 for $750-1500 and one that needs work for around $100-500. As far as the 5000 ford depending on the tranny it should pull it but it will be at its limit my book says 55HP-75HP for an 850



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old

01-05-2005 08:08:24




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 Re: New Holland 850 value in reply to FC, 01-05-2005 07:51:52  
In my area I can get a working 850 for $750-1500 and one that needs work for around $100-500. As far as the 5000 ford depending on the tranny it should pull it but it will be at its limit my book says 55HP-75HP for an 850



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thurlow

01-05-2005 08:20:05




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 Re: New Holland 850 value in reply to old, 01-05-2005 08:08:24  
Old's pretty much got it right; in my neck of the woods, it's worth a couple of hundred dollars in the condition you describe; 5000 can pull it..... .on flat land.



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