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Mounting engine on a baler...Anyone ever done it??

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KMSD

01-04-2005 17:59:03




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Ive been interested in mounting a wisconsin engine on a old square baler anyone ever done it??? i would like to see how it is done...There is not many old one left for me to look at so i guess i need some tips from some one whos done it....By the way im still looking for a wisconsin engine for the project....Im in south east South dakota if anyone has one close....




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Jed in Or

01-08-2005 20:18:25




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 Re: Mounting engine on a baler...Anyone ever done in reply to KMSD , 01-04-2005 17:59:03  
go to parts and pieces and look at jd 214T baler And NH66 baler to see how mine are set up



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INCase

01-06-2005 14:17:41




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 Re: Mounting engine on a baler...Anyone ever done in reply to KMSD , 01-04-2005 17:59:03  
as the others have mentioned the Amish do it all the time. some have "power sulkeys" too. I think there is an outfit somewhere that makes kits for them. Also I know even in the late 80's-early 90's NewHolland made a optional power unit kits for their balers. I don't know if they still do but you may get some info there. Freeman balers (larger commercial) may still have a power unit option as well. You could at least look at the designs...good luck...

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LEE CUTTER

01-06-2005 07:54:04




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 Re: Mounting engine on a baler...Anyone ever done in reply to KMSD , 01-04-2005 17:59:03  
I am sure it can be done . My dealings with an engine driven baler , Was a 1950 NH 66 . The engine was a 2 cyl. Wisconsin model THD . I replaced it with a PTO drive later . Still have the engine. May still run . E-mail me and We can talk about it .



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Ernie Bob

01-05-2005 14:50:34




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 Re: Mounting engine on a baler...Anyone ever done in reply to KMSD , 01-04-2005 17:59:03  
I have a NH 80 wire tie with a 4 cylinder Wisconsin on it and a parts baler that I would let go for next to nothing. The working baler will take about all you can shove to it and just chug along. Engine runs good, needs some electrical work. I'm outside of Boulder Colorado if your interested.



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JMS/MN

01-05-2005 08:53:48




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 Re: Mounting engine on a baler...Anyone ever done in reply to KMSD , 01-04-2005 17:59:03  
I think a neighbor of mine still has a MM baler with a Wisconsin on it- it's been sitting in the weeds for years, but would give you mounting ideas. I have a VF4D with zero hours on since o'haul, electric start. $750 and it's yours. I'm just over 100 miles EAST of Milbank.



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Gerald J.

01-05-2005 07:48:48




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 Re: Mounting engine on a baler...Anyone ever done in reply to KMSD , 01-04-2005 17:59:03  
I've considered doing that. I know the parts books show the mounts and motors for most vintage square balers.

What I was thinking was of using a VW rabbit diesel engine driving a hydraulic pump or two. Then the ratio for driving the flywheel for the baler would have been easy and there would have been power left over for hydraulic motors on the wheels to make it self propelled. Then with a control to set the speed of the two drive wheels and to split the power between to be a steering control and a dolly wheel in place of the tongue I could bale and stack by myself riding on the towed hay rack.

Since those thoughts, I've quit selling hay, sold my baler and one rake and need to sell the other rake and the mower/conditioner.

Gerald J.

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buickanddeere

01-07-2005 06:58:34




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 Re: Mounting engine on a baler...Anyone ever done in reply to Gerald J., 01-05-2005 07:48:48  
Gerald, sometimes you scare me with ideas like that.



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Jed in OR

01-04-2005 23:28:46




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 Re: Mounting engine on a baler...Anyone ever done in reply to KMSD , 01-04-2005 17:59:03  
I still use a john deere 214T whith a 4 cylinder wisconsen on it and have 2 NH 66 whith the motors removed I will get pics this weekend and post



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Rauville

01-04-2005 20:39:44




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 Re: Mounting engine on a baler...Anyone ever done in reply to KMSD , 01-04-2005 17:59:03  
We use a 273 NH baler that came with a 2 cylinder Wisconsin engine that has since been taken off. That little engine seemed to handle most anything that was asked of it. Rather than a crank to start it with, it had a solid disc (like a steering wheel) mounted on the front pulley that you turned. It used double V-belts with a belt tightener to drive the flywheel.



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TP from Central PA

01-04-2005 19:14:06




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 Re: Mounting engine on a baler...Anyone ever done in reply to KMSD , 01-04-2005 17:59:03  
One of the old guys I pal around with said he thought that some of the Amish guys over his way who custom square bale bought a NH 311 new with an engine already one it. They bale small squares green to wrap and make baleage out of it. This guy I am talking about had them custom bale for him, they took off the horses and put his 966 on it..... ..... .He said you could really move with that engine they had on this baler, even with fairly green hay. He didn't recall what power plant it was. I'd imagine it was a Ford Industrial engine of some sort.

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John51

01-04-2005 18:26:18




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 Re: Mounting engine on a baler...Anyone ever done in reply to KMSD , 01-04-2005 17:59:03  
My neighbors all do it that way. Of course they're Amish. They usually make a frame out of angle and channel to mount the engine on, then set it above the baler flywheel. V belts(several) or a short flat belt runs from the engine to the baler flywheel. They use a clutch on the engine, of course. Most here are on J.D. balers but one guy has it mounted on one of the IH straight through balers.



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RayP(MI)

01-05-2005 17:37:09




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 Re: Mounting engine on a baler...Anyone ever done in reply to John51, 01-04-2005 18:26:18  
Saw an Amish farmer the other dady with one on a 14T. (Well, last summer.) He had the engine on a 2 wheeled cart ahead of the baler, and the horses pulling the cart. All on steel, of course! Must have been an adventure following the windrow with that thing!



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Steven

01-04-2005 18:14:36




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 Re: Mounting engine on a baler...Anyone ever done in reply to KMSD , 01-04-2005 17:59:03  
Hello KMSD,
Back in the 50's, that was on option on many balers. We had a Wisconsin on a IH 50T baler when I was small. I wouldn't go back to those days for anything. Shut that motor off, or kill it with a slug, you'd crank and cuss for a good 1/2 hour before it would start. Tractors were small and scarce, we didn't have any choice, or know any different. Sorry don't have any pictures for you, but if you would be able to locate some old baler manuals, there should be pictures. If you find a Wisconsin motor, make sure it has electric start!

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