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Nail

12-22-2004 17:22:57

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These bale accumulators look like they would work good but I am wondering about the bale being dragged across the ground with twine tie,seems like it could damage the bales. What happens when you go through a ditch or cross over a terrace? Can you turn a curve with out them going sideways and turning over? And what happens when the baler misses a tie or would it be easier to pull them behind a tractor and accumulate them and then stack them. Thanks for the help at $0.50 a bale to have it put in the barn it wouldn't take long to pay for one of these. Thanks

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KIP

12-24-2004 10:49:56

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Re: Bale Accumulator in reply to Nail, 12-22-2004 17:22:57

We used a Farmhand accumulator behind several different NH wire balers in New Mexico on flat alfalfa fields and baled around 8000+ bales a year. It worked fine once we got it adjusted. Main thing is to make sure you aren�t stopped or turning when it unloads the bales or you will have to line them up by hand for the grappler and a live PTO to run the accumulator hydraulic pump is a must.

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BobMo

12-23-2004 19:32:08

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Re: Bale Accumulator in reply to Nail, 12-22-2004 17:22:57

Nail, I have both a Farmhand 8 bale accumulator and a NH pull type bale wagon. Both have good points and bad. The accumulator attaches fixed at 2 points to your baler & has a pair of dolly wheels. My fields are somewhat rough with rolling hills and I experience few problems from that respect with either the wagon or the accumulator. I would have to be concerned I think with the underslung accumulator. It also appears to be made some what ligher which may work well for Oregan or Wash. where most of them are sold.
I have a NH 315 baler in front of the accumulator and on most days never miss a tie and my baler don't know what a bananna bale is. I'm sure that JD makes fine balers but so does NH. The bale wagon certainly is quicker on the pickup but when your full you have to head for the barn. Unloading presents problems of is own. A set of bale forks on a loader eliminates barn stacking problems. I put up about 3-4000 bales a year by myself and I like it in the barn the day its baled even though sometimes it don't happen, good luck with whatever you choose.

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Billy Knight

12-23-2004 07:05:53

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Re: Bale Accumulator in reply to Nail, 12-22-2004 17:22:57

I have used one for 6 years it slides bales on the ground.

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RickL

12-23-2004 06:50:44

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Re: Bale Accumulator in reply to Nail, 12-22-2004 17:22:57

Nail; I run a hoelscher accumulator unit. It works for me. I would not want a drag ground unit period to many hills. And as in later cuttings those first bales can be drug along time on the gound. I know fellow who has a used farmhand unit with grapple he was wanting to get rid of,its in the shed. You need a baler that can make uniform bales.although I have my accumulator modified so the few longer plunge bales you get do not bother. Another option for you might be the bale basket wagons. (I used those for well over tens seasons (had 3)and liked them). The New Holland self load wagons I have to much distance for all they hold and to many hills,plus no hugh barns they would work in. The accumulator system to me is little more versitle as I also load customers in the field and all through rest of year with the grapple part. Give me a call 319-257-6764 and I can tell you the simple modification to either of these suggestions that make a world of difference in using them. Talk more to KYhayman for more info on the New Holland bale wagons,He knows those units happy holidays. This is what works for me

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Delbert

12-23-2004 06:07:56

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Re: Bale Accumulator in reply to Nail, 12-22-2004 17:22:57

I pull a wagon behind my baler it is much easier to let that baler put the bales on the wagon than to pick up from the ground. I do alot of this by myself put two or three bales on the wagon go back and stack them takes alittle while to bale that way but works for me. I have three wagons and can fill them in one afternoon then unlaod in the morning when it is cooler.

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Rauville

12-23-2004 05:34:54

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Re: Bale Accumulator in reply to Nail, 12-22-2004 17:22:57

I've been to a couple of farm auctions where a "bale stooker" has gone really cheap. When I used to see "stooks" in the field, it seemed like a good idea. Now it just seems like another piece of equipment to try to keep adjusted and working.
We still use the old fashioned method of pulling a wagon behind the baler with a couple of "volunteers" on it.

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Seth_ia

12-26-2004 15:30:28

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Re: Bale Accumulator in reply to Rauville, 12-23-2004 05:34:54

how does a stooker work

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kyhayman

12-22-2004 20:14:11

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Re: Bale Accumulator in reply to Nail, 12-22-2004 17:22:57

The drag style ones seem to work well on clean, level, dry fields. I've only seen video and thats all they ever show. Nothing worse than an accumulator or a bale wagon thats giving you problems.

If you have ditches, terraces, or any questionable conditions I'd use a Steffen or Hoelscher which carries the bales IF I was going to use an accumulator. For me, NH bale wagon was the only way to go. Just wish I had gone self propelled instead of pull type.

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Kelly C

12-22-2004 19:55:18

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Re: Bale Accumulator in reply to Nail, 12-22-2004 17:22:57

I do alot of dropping the bales and then picking them up and stacking on the rack.
I was thinking about welding up a mini bale basket That would hold about 6 to 8 bales. Be hard mounted to the rear of my baler. Ride on a set of caster wheels. Make it dump the bales in piles as I bale. Would atleast make the picking up a little quicker.
Should be able to build that for a couple hundred bucks.

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Bernie in MA

12-22-2004 18:54:11

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Re: Bale Accumulator in reply to Nail, 12-22-2004 17:22:57

I've got an old Farmhand "bale sled" that I use behind the baler. The 8-10 bales land on some 1/2" rods and drag on the ground until you open the tailgate. It doesn't seem to hurt them any, but it is a mess when one comes out not tied especially if you don't see it right away. It basically saves having a truck driver to drive between scattered bales. It's a real big help on second cutting or thin hay.

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ChrisL

12-23-2004 17:21:44

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Re: Bale Accumulator in reply to Bernie in MA, 12-22-2004 18:54:11

I am interested in a deal like that - do you ever see them for sale?
Do you have pictures?

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Indydirtfarmer

12-22-2004 18:19:49

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Re: Bale Accumulator in reply to Nail, 12-22-2004 17:22:57

I have a Steffens accumulator. It doesn't drag the bales on the ground. It utilizes a light framework to hold the bales, and wheels to carry that assembly. Not a single problem in that regard.

You MUST have a baler that makes almost every tie. I use a Deere 336. I have a New Holland 273 that I TRIED the accumulator on for about an hour. The "standard" New Holland bannana shaped bale ended that post haste. The Deere 336 is, in my opinion, about as good of a baler as was ever built. You also need a GOOD loader/tractor for the grapple....

I bought mine at auction...didn't pay "list price". If I had to pay full price, and knew what I do today, I'd likely invest in a New Holland bale cart. Much faster in the long run...John

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