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pete43011

12-14-2004 04:06:10

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Has any one ever used metal barn siding for a ceiling in a shop?
Just had this brainstorm and the more I think on it the better it looks.Just don"t see any downsides. Trusses on 48" centers. Shouldn"t need to add nailers for metal. Plenty strong enough to support R-39 insulation. Already finished and painted. Cost effective- material and labor wise.
What am I overlooking?
Thanks for your inputs.

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Mattlt

12-15-2004 11:39:56

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Re: Shop Ceilings in reply to pete43011, 12-14-2004 04:06:10

An installation tip, if you do decide to go with the steel ceiling:

Start installing it in the BACK of the building, working your way toward the front. That way, you won't see the seams in the steel as much.

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Shovelman

12-14-2004 17:32:35

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Re: Shop Ceilings in reply to pete43011, 12-14-2004 04:06:10

I used it in my shop and it worked great. We tacked clear poly to the trusses for a moisture barrier and then installed white Pro Panel II from Home Depot.

I only took my son and I about 6 hours to hang 32 sheets of it. What took the most time was locating and drilling all the holes for the wiring (lights, fans, etc.).

Then I had 14" of blown-in insulation put over it.

For the walls, we framed up 8' with studs and sheetrock. From the top plate to the ceiling (about another 8') we used 4' wide, white poly faced commercial building insulation.

It was relatively inexpensive, but still looks and performs great. We used less than 100 gals of oil to heat it last winter.

Scott

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tim[in]

12-14-2004 14:25:56

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Re: Shop Ceilings in reply to pete43011, 12-14-2004 04:06:10

had a friend who had it in his garage on ceiling and walls. only problem was when someone had spilled gas out of a tank on floor and then someone broke a droplight. flames went over to wall and then up wall on inside and no one could get thru metal to put fire out. building was total loss. maybe some plastic 3 -4 feet up then the metal or just on ceiling. still is quite commonly done and great idea, but that is the only drawback i see. good luck still in dreaming stage on my shop! lol

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Gerald J.

12-14-2004 14:10:50

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Re: Shop Ceilings in reply to pete43011, 12-14-2004 04:06:10

A local lumber yard just did that in their sales room. Not a new idea at all, but it does work. Most pole building sellers offer it as an interior option.

Gerald J.

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JiminIA

12-14-2004 10:16:36

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Re: Shop Ceilings in reply to pete43011, 12-14-2004 04:06:10

We put it on the inside of our shop at work last year, looks good, and really brightens it up. We were able to buy "seconds" some of the metal was slighty damaged discolored etc., it was a lot cheaper and you can't hardly tell the difference..... .Jim

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Dale(MO)

12-14-2004 09:31:13

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Re: Shop Ceilings in reply to pete43011, 12-14-2004 04:06:10

Pete,
My dad has the same metal on the ceiling of his machine shop as is on the outside. Works well, reflects light well, and has never had a problem with moisture. It goes up easier than sheet rock or plywood, and is definitely easier to keep clean. I haven't really noticed the echo, but I weld and turn wrenches in the other end (same ceiling), and being an operator for several years, I don't hear everything I should. When I build my shop, I plan to use metal for the ceiling and walls. Good luck!

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Rauville

12-14-2004 08:48:12

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Re: Shop Ceilings in reply to pete43011, 12-14-2004 04:06:10

We had a Lester brand building built a few years ago. We asked for a finished ceiling, and what the contractor used was the regular interior steel wall sheeting. The nicest thing about it is the reflective value, makes for a nice bright shop. We have blown insulation above the ceiling, and have never had any problem with moisture.

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Rick Kr

12-14-2004 07:49:14

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Re: Shop Ceilings in reply to pete43011, 12-14-2004 04:06:10

I was just getting ready to ask the same question. I want to use pole barn siding so it is already painted and ready to go. What I wonder is about moisture buildup? Is this a problem with the metal? My last barn I used OSB (plywood) on all the walls and ceilings and had no signs of moisture in the attic or around the ceiling. A buddy just put up metal with blown insulation over top, but he couldn't answer the question about moisture.
I assume metal should be ok if the ridge vent and the soffit are working the way they should, but it would be nice to know for sure.

Rick
Mid-michigan

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Larry806

12-14-2004 06:49:50

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Re: Shop Ceilings in reply to pete43011, 12-14-2004 04:06:10

I have metal roofing in part of my shop for ceiling. My trusses are on 41/2 ft center. I used a gravity wagon with 2x10's on top to work from, easy to move around . I put on a couple runs of steel than I put the insulation as I went That way I didn't have to climb around in the ceiling. My adopted son builds for Morton they either use plywood 8ft from the bottom or use the more expensive perforated metal for the ceiling

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Indydirtfarmer

12-14-2004 06:10:37

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Re: Shop Ceilings in reply to pete43011, 12-14-2004 04:06:10

I bought out a small lumber yards supply of suspended ceiling grid metal, and the bought "food grade" ceiling tile (Gypsum board covered with vinyl) a few years back. It allows me to access the space above the ceiling with little effort. I can use 2'x4' "troffer" style lights. The vinyl is easy to clean. (Gets washed about every couple years. I use fiberglass "bats" on top of the ceiling. It makes for a clean, quiet, and QUICK ceiling that is very servicable. The gypboard tile are heavy enough so that starting a diesel tractor inside doesn't blow the tile out of the grid (like conventional accoustical tile would do)

May not be the answer for everyone, but it works GREAT for me. John

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RickL

12-14-2004 05:55:54

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Re: Shop Ceilings in reply to pete43011, 12-14-2004 04:06:10

Pete43011; Its done alot no big deal the down side is it will have a tendency to be little more noisey in the building. You drop a wrench it will just ring louder,sorta echo effect.What is common now is the metal top have of the wall lining is perforated with tiny holes. That helps with the noise they say.

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RickL

12-14-2004 05:55:45

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Allan in NE

12-14-2004 04:41:19

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Re: Shop Ceilings in reply to pete43011, 12-14-2004 04:06:10

Hi Pete,

Saw a converted garage done that way a few days ago with white 3' siding.

I'm going to do mine that way sometime this winter.

Allan

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RustyFarmall

12-14-2004 04:38:18

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Re: Shop Ceilings in reply to pete43011, 12-14-2004 04:06:10

I think you have a very good idea, I have intentions of doing the same thing myself whenever the money is available. The ceiling offered by the company where I bought the building is a very similar system.

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Dale

12-14-2004 11:43:44

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Re: Shop Ceilings in reply to RustyFarmall, 12-14-2004 04:38:18

It works pretty well but plastic works even better. We got plastic in the same rib pattern and put it on, doesn't weigh as much so you don't have to worry so much about sagging, easier to clean, no rust, and it cost about the same as steel.

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