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Kerwin

12-04-2004 10:55:20




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I'm new to grinder/mixers and wondering if anyone can help me with a couple of questions.

What are good brands/models to look for? Both for being easy to find, and to get replacement parts. I have heard of Farmhand, NH, Gehl, etc.--need opinions.

How are grinder/mixers measured/labeled? Is it by their tank bushel size, weight? What would be a "small" grinder/mixer?

Thanks for the help. I'm in WI, so there are a lot of grinder/mixers around. Just wanted to do some research before buying.

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INCase

12-09-2004 06:14:44




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 Re: Grinder/Mixer Questions in reply to Kerwin, 12-04-2004 10:55:20  
I used to work on Gehl's. They are a well made machine. However I've never operated any other make. I hadn't heard about the HP issue before this post. We used to grind hay a "slab" at a time. It worked fine but would make the belts bark if they weren't tighted properly. a "hay feeder or infeed unit" would be better for hay feeding. I can't remember if the Gehl model # is the bushels or something else. It is related to tank size THey make 2 sizes I'd get the larger one. Gehl has been around and making grinders for some time so parts are easy to get they are still the "same company" (not bought out or merged.. yet). the hammer design has been around for 50-60 years. What ever brand be warry of any that have sat outside. Feed is pretty fine and most if not all grinders are usually covered with a layer of dust. THat dust holds the water and will rust them out quickly, inside and out.. Water (moisture) can also get into the electronic scale parts as well (if so equiped). good luck and have fun.

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famermatt

12-05-2004 17:53:41




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 Re: Grinder/Mixer Questions in reply to Kerwin, 12-04-2004 10:55:20  
I sure like my JD 750. 3 ton flat bottom, mid seventies model. No problem getting bearings and the such but "body parts" such as auger tubes arent available from your jd dealer. Salvage parts are also hard to find in my area. Remember that green paint is high priced, replaced the hammers last year JD wanted $14.50 a piece, called a mill supply place, said they would make them for me. He said hed even paint them green for $2.50 or sell them plain for $1.50! lol. Matt

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paul

12-05-2004 19:08:36




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 Re: Grinder/Mixer Questions in reply to famermatt, 12-05-2004 17:53:41  
I'd be interested in finding a mill supply place? :)

The Gehl 55 has lasted a long long time, 36 hp tractor pulls it but 45 is better, but that's all I know so I can't compare.

Mix mills with hyd running things are handier, but they take a lot more power.

--->Paul



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farmermatt

12-06-2004 05:00:26




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 Re: Grinder/Mixer Questions in reply to paul, 12-05-2004 19:08:36  
Im near KC, supply place is there. As I recall it is southwest mill supply co. Ill try to dig up a number for em. Matt



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fredy

12-05-2004 11:04:59




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 Re: Grinder/Mixer Questions in reply to Kerwin, 12-04-2004 10:55:20  
i have a farmhand 817 and love it. use every 2 days for dairy cows



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TP from Central PA

12-04-2004 18:26:29




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 Re: Grinder/Mixer Questions in reply to Kerwin, 12-04-2004 10:55:20  
I've owned NH and IH(Arts-Way) and I was happy with both of them. The NH was a 357 and had all the hydraulic goodies on it which made it nice to use. The IH, which was made by Arts-Way, I had was an 1150, I bought it used and it was beat by the previous owner..... ....It still treated me well and was actually extremely reliable. I'd recommend either of these three brands.

I was never a fan of Gehls and I used them alot grinding for the neighbors..... ...They seemed to be like a horsepower vacuum. It seemed I could run the ones I had with half the tractor that we had on the Gehls even though they were the same size mills.

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Seth_ia

12-05-2004 16:33:45




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 Re: Grinder/Mixer Questions in reply to TP from Central PA, 12-04-2004 18:26:29  
Arts-Way is the top of the line mixer. Ih are just as good, but are a little cheaper since they don't say arts-way. IH mills are actually easier to find parts for since there are IH dealers every where. I have a 1250 IH(early 1250's are IH, late 1250's are Case IH) and love it. My father and uncle also had IH mills and had great luck too. Watch New Holland mills for rusted augers, not that you don't have to watch all of them. 105 bushel or 2 ton are the small mills.

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Seth_ia

12-06-2004 17:14:00




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 Re: Grinder/Mixer Questions in reply to Seth_ia, 12-05-2004 16:33:45  
Got a Question for you all. Has anyone ever had any luck grinding hay with out a roll feed. Never had any need when I bought my 1250 without one. But now am thinking about it.



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thurlow

12-06-2004 17:35:35




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 Re: Grinder/Mixer Questions in reply to Seth_ia, 12-06-2004 17:14:00  
Not familiar with a "roll feed", but..... ..way back when, we ground a "complete" ration and used hay as the limiting factor for amount eaten (feeder calves). Had a 355???? (have forgotten the model no.) NH. Separated the bales of hay and put it through the grinder a "charge" at a time. It worked fine, although occasionally you could hear a squeak in the drive belt as it slipped a tiny bit.



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Seth_ia

12-06-2004 19:29:43




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 Re: Grinder/Mixer Questions in reply to thurlow, 12-06-2004 17:35:35  
A roll feed on an IH/Arts-way is a roller with points on it at the enterance of the hammer mill. They are supposed to regulate the flow of hay to the hammers.



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TP from Central PA

12-07-2004 03:42:24




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 Re: Grinder/Mixer Questions in reply to Seth_ia, 12-06-2004 19:29:43  
Break you bale slabs down to smaller sizes and you'll get along just fine.



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Seth_ia

12-06-2004 19:28:29




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 Re: Grinder/Mixer Questions in reply to thurlow, 12-06-2004 17:35:35  
A roll feed on an IH/Arts-way is a roller with points on it at the enterance of the hammer mill. They are supposed to regulate the flow of hay to the hammers.



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TP from Central PA

12-05-2004 17:57:46




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 Re: Grinder/Mixer Questions in reply to Seth_ia, 12-05-2004 16:33:45  
The NH I had was gifted with alot of Cancer, but that old girl still worked pretty good.



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David from Kansas

12-04-2004 11:11:09




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 Re: Grinder/Mixer Questions in reply to Kerwin, 12-04-2004 10:55:20  
Kerwin,
I've not enjoyed any experience with any other G/M except the New Holland model 355 which I purchased new about 25 years ago. At the time I was finishing out some hogs and backgrounding some beef calves and I got tired of paying the local coop all that extra money to grind and mix my own grain, which I had stored in the local coop elevator, in addition to some limited storage on the farm.
Anyway, the New Holland has been excellent. The only item I have ever replaced is a bearing on the auger that brings the feed to the final discharge auger. I think the key to maintenance is to keep them always shedded. Also, I never put salt in any mix I am making as I think it will contribute to early failure. They will rust out in many places if water gets in there, even if you have the drain holes open. The model 355 was the mid-sized model in the line when I bought mine, don't know about today. There were several options available; long discharge auger, hydraulic swing-out hopper/auger, and a hay table, to allow grinding hay/forage, along with various types and sizes of screens. I have been extremely satisfied with my New Holland. (this G/M is the only piece of NH equipment I have ever owned.)

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