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Chuck - Ga.

12-02-2004 16:19:24

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I aquired a MF124 to cut our own horse hay. After pretty much completely rebuilding the baler, it was hitting every bale this past season. Problem is getting good square bales!
I have adjusted everything I know- Packing forks, hay dogs (no broke springs) groung speed, windrow size, spring tension bar,even placing windrow inside/outside edges of pick-up reel. It appears I am not getting enough material to the left side of the bale chamber. (Viewed from back side of baler)One of you Massey guys give me a tip!!

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Jim.UT

12-06-2004 16:46:47

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Re: MF 124 Baler in reply to Chuck - Ga., 12-02-2004 16:19:24

Chuck, I didn't find any wedges in my 124. My Ford 542 has two wedges on each side and that's what I was thinking of when I spoke before. There are some empty square holes on the side of the bale chute where the carriage bolts would hold the wedges in place.

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Chuck-Ga

12-08-2004 14:31:25

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Re: MF 124 Baler in reply to Jim.UT, 12-06-2004 16:46:47

Jim, Thanks for looking--I have a buudy who has a ? New Holland and it has wedges-I might just look at his and make some!! It cain't be too complicated. Thanks again for looking

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Enie Bob

12-06-2004 16:22:18

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Re: MF 124 Baler in reply to Chuck - Ga., 12-02-2004 16:19:24

Chuck, I also have a MF-124 and I had the same problem in wild hay. My chamber had 2 wedges, 1 on each side. I added 2 more from my old NH-276 and it corrected the problem. I do know that my baler likes to have a good sized widrow going into it at all times. If the widrow is to lite I still get loose bales.

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Chuck - Ga

12-08-2004 14:36:18

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Re: MF 124 Baler in reply to Enie Bob, 12-06-2004 16:22:18

Enie, Thanks for replying, as I has said in an earlier message the "dealer" coudn't give me any information -(whether the baler had wedges or not from factory). You are the first person that I've had contact with that actually has a 124 with wedges--I'll ask around down here and find someone with a 124 and probably make a duplicate of wedges!! Thanks-

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Ernie Bob

12-09-2004 11:20:54

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Re: MF 124 Baler in reply to Chuck - Ga, 12-08-2004 14:36:18

Chuck;
I checked my baler last night and found that I have a total of 8 wedges, 4 on each side. It must of come with 2 or 4 and I added an additional 4 or 6 from my old NH-276. I measure the wedges and the front side is 2", the back side is 3/4", 12" long and the bolt spacing is 10&1/4". The bolt holes are 3/4" from the front edge of the 2" side. This will hold the front of the angle tight against the side of the chamber to keep hay from pushing behind it. Hopefully this makes sense. Send me an e-mail with your phone number if you would like a better explanation or a digital picture.

Good Luck!
Ernie Bob

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Chuck - Ga

12-18-2004 19:57:50

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Re: MF 124 Baler in reply to Ernie Bob, 12-09-2004 11:20:54

Ernie, I don't have your E-mail address. If you read this send me a e-mail to [email protected] and I will reply back!! Thanks- chuck -

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Ernie Bob

12-08-2004 16:13:12

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Re: MF 124 Baler in reply to Chuck - Ga, 12-08-2004 14:36:18

Chuck;
I"ll look at my baler tonight when I hay cows and see what size angle and length they are. Then just weld a couple of studs to the inside of the angle the correct spacing and put them in.
Later!
Ernie Bob

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Jim.UT

12-03-2004 13:42:31

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Re: MF 124 Baler in reply to Chuck - Ga., 12-02-2004 16:19:24

I have a 124 that is now surplus. I'm afraid it would take too many postage stamps to send it to Georgia. If the packer fork adjustment doesn't do it, then you need to look into some bale wedges. I don't remember how many wedges are in mine, but I'll try to remember to go look tomorrow.

I can't decide whether to sell my 124 complete or part it out. I kind of think there's probably not enough demand for parts to get it all sold.

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Chuck-Ga

12-03-2004 14:19:54

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Re: MF 124 Baler in reply to Jim.UT, 12-03-2004 13:42:31

I would appreciate it very much if you would check and let me know if it does have bale wedges, the owners manual doesn't make any reference to wedges. I know it has 5 hay dogs.-- 3 top 2 on bottom-- The dealer doesn't give me any help. If you do want to part yours out, I would be interested, especially in the bale wedges. (Where are you at.) If UT stands for Utah It sure would take a lot of stamps.

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Jim.UT

12-03-2004 14:46:23

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Re: MF 124 Baler in reply to Chuck-Ga, 12-03-2004 14:19:54

Yep, UT stands for Utah, home of the Fiesta Bowl-bound, BCS-bustin Utes! Also home of the Florida's next football coach. Oh well, back to mediocrity.

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RobN

12-02-2004 18:50:27

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Re: MF 124 Baler in reply to Chuck - Ga., 12-02-2004 16:19:24

I believe the previous post about adjusting the packer fingers pivot pin is correct. According the MF 120 manual the pivot pin should be in the right hand hole when looking rearward at it from the front of the baler to increase the material on the left side (outside) of the bale chamber. I used a #12 for for several years but it's in storage waiting for my JD 14T to expire - that day may be a long way off! You might want to try increasing the material in the windrow and/or adjusting your ground speed to make sure sufficient material is entering the baler. HTH

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agrogers

12-02-2004 17:48:52

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Re: MF 124 Baler in reply to Chuck - Ga., 12-02-2004 16:19:24

Form the sounds of it, the problem is the position of the inside packer fork, if that packer fork system is the same as a 12, 10, 9 or 3.
You have to adjust it to match your conditions, try each position to see what works best. It should correct it, if not I'd say your hay dogs don't work and it doesn't have any bale retarders.
That's assuming the packer fork system for the 124 is similar to the 12 or the 10, etc.

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Chuck - Ga

12-03-2004 05:23:39

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Re: MF 124 Baler in reply to agrogers, 12-02-2004 17:48:52

I have tried all fork positions, as well as confirming all the hay dogs are properly working-
I did have to replace a couple of dog springs and free them up. But are you refering to the hay dogs as bale retarders? First I've heard of this terminology. Oh, thanks for replying!

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RobN

12-03-2004 08:35:51

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Re: MF 124 Baler in reply to Chuck - Ga, 12-03-2004 05:23:39

The two hay dogs are located on the top of the bale chamber underneath the knotters and have a return spring attached to them. They prevent the compressed hay from springing back towards the plunger after it's compressed. The wedges/retarders are pieces of metal attached inside of the bale chamber (on the vertical walls) to create resistance for the material so the plunger is able to compress it without it being too easily pushed thru causing loose bales. HTH.

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img

12-03-2004 09:29:07

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Re: MF 124 Baler in reply to RobN, 12-03-2004 08:35:51

Rob, Thanks for info on wedges/retarders-
I bought baler used and there are none on it, I'll
contact my dealer to see if available-- (my bales were loose, I thought I did not crank down the tension bars enough!)--Chuck

But yea I am familiar with the 5 hay dogs.

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agrogers

12-03-2004 10:20:12

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Re: MF 124 Baler in reply to img, 12-03-2004 09:29:07

I'm sure the pirates of AGCO's parts department will fix you up, but for a good bit of lettuce...
From the sounds of it the retarders are why you can't get good bales.

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Chuck-Ga

12-03-2004 10:40:58

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Re: MF 124 Baler in reply to agrogers, 12-03-2004 10:20:12

Yea, The dealer likes their lettuce, but they say the baler doesn't have any retarders. So I hope someone that has a 124 could give more insight. I guess I could make some if I had too.

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