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HoyBoy

11-27-2004 06:18:27

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I'm in the process of gathering equipment so that I can start making hay in the summer of 2006.
My current line up will have me cutting with a 7'
sickle bar mower and the baling will be done with a NH model 269. I'm leaning toward the older design bar rake. I want a ground driven rake that I can pull with a Ford 8N. I've got the idea that a dolly style might be a good choice. My question is what size should the rake be? Any model numbers to watch for? I've seen some in the price range of $1200 to $1500 that are in pretty good shape but at this point I'm not really sure what to buy. I want to stick with NH for my hay equipment.
HoyBoy

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Loren

11-28-2004 10:02:47

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Re: NH Rake in reply to HoyBoy, 11-27-2004 06:18:27

The 256 is 3pt. mounted right? 56 is a pull type, and what I would recommend, and the 8N will do real well with it.

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paul

11-28-2004 14:27:17

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Re: NH Rake in reply to Loren, 11-28-2004 10:02:47

Nope. 256 is just tweeked up a little newer model, but very close to the 56.

Perhaps the 258 is the pto style? Don't know, hardly not any at all around here.

Same with 3pt units, would not like one with an 8N for sure, wouldn't like that style at all in any case. Hardly see any here in alfalfa country.

In reply to the other part of his question,I don't like the dolly wheels - hard to back up, & another set of wheels crushing the alfalfa & knocking leaves off, pressing hay into damp soil, and cornering becomes different - not to my liking... My preference, others wouldn't be without them of course. ;)

--->Paul

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Tim(nj)

11-28-2004 16:23:03

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Re: NH Rake in reply to paul, 11-28-2004 14:27:17

57 is the 3-point model. The ONLY tractors that 3-point rakes work well on IMO are older MF tractors that have the ground-drive PTO position on the lever in addition to the live PTO. Got an old New Idea 42M that is a complete joke on any tractor I have except for the old MF65, on which it works great.

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Loren

11-28-2004 15:56:39

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Re: NH Rake in reply to paul, 11-28-2004 14:27:17

I've finally learned that the true trailer style with no dolly is for me. Easier to make nice corners when they're tight, and with the rough fields I do the trailer action lessens every irregularity, making a straighter row. my baler pickup is pretty narrow and straight is definately a benefit. Loren

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Dave H (MI)

11-28-2004 06:48:47

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Re: NH Rake in reply to HoyBoy, 11-27-2004 06:18:27

I love my NH 56. Can't beat them for the price. I don't know a lot about the old Ford tractors, so forgive me if I am speaking wrong, but are you sure you have enough tractor? I could have hayed with my newer Ford utility but took the recommendations of several local boys and bought a big old Farmall instead. My land rolls a little and when you start baling and filling up the wagon behind the baler you start talking more than a little weight pushing you down the slopes.
Just a thought. Be safe.

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HoyBoy

11-29-2004 02:34:03

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Re: NH Rake in reply to Dave H (MI), 11-28-2004 06:48:47

I only plan to cut & rake with the 8N. I'll be using an AC D17 Series III for the baling.
Good point though. Safety first.
HoyBoy

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Nebraska Cowman

11-28-2004 06:07:10

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Re: NH Rake in reply to HoyBoy, 11-27-2004 06:18:27

the 256 NH is a very good rake. Don't know why you would want a dolly wheel, they won't turn as short and you are running a wheel on the unraked hay. A Ford 8N is an excellant rake tractor, you can turn on a dime and don't use much fuel. I rake with a Ferguson 20 and love it.

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kyhayman

11-27-2004 12:55:16

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Re: NH Rake in reply to HoyBoy, 11-27-2004 06:18:27

I use a 56 and a 256. Both good rakes, when I bought the 256 (new in '98) I could have bought anything and I chose it. Used, the 256's bring in the 1200-1500 range, paid $600 for the 56.

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RickL

11-27-2004 10:10:39

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Re: NH Rake in reply to HoyBoy, 11-27-2004 06:18:27

I have some NH units available plus some older Jd units also. Good usable units just cheaper. Also have a 6wheel rake style

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paul

11-27-2004 09:08:43

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Re: NH Rake in reply to HoyBoy, 11-27-2004 06:18:27

The NH 55 is a good one, with a straight rear axle. These typically go $300-500 locally.

The 56, & 256 are newer with the angled, ground-following axle. Picks up a bit more hay on uneven ground. These often go $600 - 2000 locally.

I have a 55.

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James2

11-29-2004 19:01:11

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Re: NH Rake in reply to paul, 11-27-2004 09:08:43

This fellow knows his stuff. I looked at a lot of rakes and although I bought a JD, I really liked the NH's better. If your hay field is not fairly level the leading edge of the 55 with the axle not parallel to the basket can gouge into the ground and break front mounted tines. The 256 and 56 having parallel axle in general avoid this problem unless it is a deep ditch and the basket is set close to the ground (necessary to rake light/thin hay). JD for sure, and I believe also NH offered a leading edge basket slide or wheel to minimize this effect. If I remember correctly the 256 has grease zerks on the telescoping drive shaft which prevents wear and the resultant slop. I am streching my memory, this was 5 yrs ago, but I believe the 56 may have a better jack stand than the 55 and I am sure the 256 has the most desirable stand. I bought a JD model 898 it does not have the desired parallel axle, but I bought it for less than half of a model 56, and it really was in good shape. At that time, the 56 was 1.75 to 2 times the price of a 55 and the 256 was 3 to 3.5 times.

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RickB

11-27-2004 10:31:03

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Re: NH Rake in reply to paul, 11-27-2004 09:08:43

56 and 256 gearbox parts are easier to come by than 55 box parts.

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HoyBoy

11-30-2004 02:35:42

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Re: NH Rake in reply to RickB, 11-27-2004 10:31:03

Thanks to all of you. This has helped a lot.
I'm sold. A NH 256 trailer type is the rake for me. Since I just bought my disc last week I'm glad that I have a year to save up and watch for a good rake.
HoyBoy

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