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bob manning

11-24-2004 06:09:00

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I am considering purchasing a dump trailer to deliver rock around my farm. I have a very hilly farm where a tandem cannot get around. I would like to consider a hydraulic dump trailer that I could load up small loads of rock and spread it around on my roads. Does this sound like a plan or am I barking up the wrong tree? I really don't want the headaches of getting somebody's old dump truck and trying to keep that thing running whenever I need to use it. I have enough tractor to pull a small dump trailer. I was just wondering if anyone else has had any experience with this type of effort. If so, can you recommend a trailer that would work for my application? Thanks for any help.

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Pa. Don

11-27-2004 16:42:44

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Re: dump trailer in reply to bob manning, 11-24-2004 06:09:00

My uncle gave me an axle and frame that he no longer wanted. I bought a 6 ton wagon hoist at an auction mounted it on the frame built a 6 X 8 box and run the hydraulics right off my 300 Farmall. Works nice for what I need.
Another uncle bought an old dump body that was mounted on a trailer frame but had no way to run the pump. I simply mounted a little 2 hp. Briggs motor on it with a 2" pulley, put a 12" pulley on the drive shaft and an idler pulley to engage the drive belt. When my dad had the pump house rebuilt the original building still had the old concrete milk cooler in it. We already had a load of rock and debris on this trailer and then set the cooler on top of it. When the ground dried out enough to get across the fields, I took the load out in the woods to dump it. The little Briggs handled it nicely.

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JMS/MN

11-26-2004 07:36:52

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Re: dump trailer in reply to bob manning, 11-24-2004 06:09:00

Some suggested using a cut off dump truck body. That works fine, but you do not need to drive it via pto if you have enough hydraulic capacity on your tractor. I used a dump body with a St. Paul hoist (parts still available), and separated the pto pump from the rest of the assembly, covered that with a plate, and re-plumbed the lines so it works with the tractor hydraulics.

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thurlow

11-26-2004 09:32:04

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Re: dump trailer in reply to JMS/MN, 11-26-2004 07:36:52

I've seen some pictures with a pto shaft hooked into the drive shaft, transmitting power to the trailer wheels..... ...would probably be a problem synchronizing the speed of the axles, but in mud it wouldn't matter.

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tim[in]

11-26-2004 01:31:17

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Re: dump trailer in reply to bob manning, 11-24-2004 06:09:00

there should be a rental place around that should have at least one to rent. i'd check around.

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Leland

11-24-2004 18:05:51

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Re: dump trailer in reply to bob manning, 11-24-2004 06:09:00

We have used a old manure spreader before for this just disconect beaters ,and chain in floor does a nice job unloading rock that we got out of creek cheap and simple.

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Dug

11-24-2004 16:06:07

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Re: dump trailer in reply to bob manning, 11-24-2004 06:09:00

I suppose it would help to let you know we are in the Kansas City area!

Dug

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Dug

11-24-2004 16:04:57

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Re: dump trailer in reply to bob manning, 11-24-2004 06:09:00

Hey Bob,

Sounds like a plan. If you are interested in a used dump trailer e-mail me. My brother bought one for the same reason and is through with it.

Dug

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donny ryals

09-14-2005 17:30:13

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Re: dump trailer in reply to Dug, 11-24-2004 16:04:57

I need a gooseneck dumpbed trailer. cell 662.417.5177 It may be a while before I check this board since I dont have electricity.

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Oklahomatractorrebuilder

11-24-2004 13:00:54

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Re: dump trailer in reply to bob manning, 11-24-2004 06:09:00

The thing to think about is you said "hilly farm", any kind of dump trailer is prone to turn over when dumping, same thing with a bobtail truck with dump bed. If you are not experienced with rock hauling on trailers be very careful or you will get into trouble. Tim

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Oklahomatractorrebuilder

11-24-2004 12:58:00

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Re: dump trailer in reply to bob manning, 11-24-2004 06:09:00

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paul

11-24-2004 10:35:35

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Re: dump trailer in reply to bob manning, 11-24-2004 06:09:00

Certainly sounds fine. Sounds like you will get the rock delivered, & then load & dump?

If you plan on hauling very far, a single-axle trailer does not allow much load, they do not ride well on the highway, and they will sink fast in wet conditions. That would be the only thing with a small trailer. If these are not issues, go for it.

--->Paul

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sammy the RED

11-24-2004 09:12:04

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Re: dump trailer in reply to bob manning, 11-24-2004 06:09:00

Good Trailers.

Bri-Mar Trailers

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JK-NY

11-24-2004 07:30:55

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Re: dump trailer in reply to bob manning, 11-24-2004 06:09:00

Around here I have a couple friends who nmade dump trailers by cutting the frame off on an old dump truck right behind the cab, welding up a tongue and putting a pto shaft on to the dump truck hyd pump to run it off the tractor pto, you would also have to change the control linkage for the valve . These trailers are handy to manuever,plenty of capacity but kind of high-sided to load-also you need to start with a good hoist and pump and valve on thre old truck. One of my friends removed the springs and set the frame of the wagon right on the rerar end to lower it.You can buy one ready made also, one brand Ive seen is Provonost.They also make roadable ones with self-contained hyd system,but more $$$ I'm sure.Hope thius helps

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John *.?-!.* cub owner

11-24-2004 07:16:14

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Re: dump trailer in reply to bob manning, 11-24-2004 06:09:00

I believe they have them at Northerntool.com and probably at Tractor Supply

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jhill

11-24-2004 07:13:13

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Re: dump trailer in reply to bob manning, 11-24-2004 06:09:00

I have a small 2 yard box I use in my landscaping business. It works good for getting into tight places. I also have a friend who delivers gravel part time. He has a 4 yd box he tows behind his pickup. It works very well for him. Both our trailers have 12v pumps and are self contained. These types of trailers are made locally so I can't recommend a brand. But if you go shopping you can tell the good ones.

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thurlow

11-24-2004 07:05:30

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Re: dump trailer in reply to bob manning, 11-24-2004 06:09:00

Some of the catalogs I get have small dump trailers in them; sorry to say I can't say which ones off the top of my head. What you are proposing will definitely work; can use the tractor's hydraulics to operate the lift cylinder. In the '80s, we had a Howle grain trailer..... goose-neck hitch, dual tandems, 400 bu box, battery powered hydraulic system; could have been easily converted to tractor hydraulics. They've fallen out of favor locally; the ones I've seen sell are in the $3000-4000 range; Something like that might be more than you need, depending on what size tractor you have; would need to build (or buy) a goose-neck hitch for your tractor which isn't much trouble; lots of farmers have such a hitch to get their cattle trailers out of muddy loading areas.....

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