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Phil in MS

11-17-2004 11:14:42




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After 27 years without a fuel tank I think I'm going to keep this diesel tractor and am considering a used tank and hand pump. I can get by with as small a tank as 50 gal. and maybe as large as 250 gal. I would likely want/need something in between. Any estimates as to the per gallon savings between road fuel vs. refund fuel? Thanks,




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bud sather

11-19-2004 10:19:15




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 Re: Tractor Fuel Storage in reply to Phil in MS, 11-17-2004 11:14:42  
I have a pickup tank that hold about 100 gallons. Most of the time I put the tank in the pickup when I go to town, buy $50 worth of dyed diesel, use the loader to set it on the ground. For the quantities that I use the hand pump works just fine for me. Sometime the exercise is good for the body. Also remember doing the same thing every day of the summer when I was a kid and I didn't think it was such a cool idea then.

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greenbeanman

11-18-2004 14:46:06




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 Re: Tractor Fuel Storage in reply to Phil in MS, 11-17-2004 11:14:42  
Phil in MS, here is a thought---if you won't be using a lot of diesel, and I assume from your post you won't, IF you have a loader on your tractor consider getting a tank that you can set onto a stand and use gravity flow instead of a pump.

Simply go to the in town pump to get it refilled every few months. You not only save the cost of delivery for smaller quantity purchase, but save the cost of a pump--about $100 or so.

Be sure to add a good fuel filter no matter how yo dispense the fule to prevent water migration.

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John A

11-17-2004 21:22:54




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 Re: Tractor Fuel Storage in reply to Phil in MS, 11-17-2004 11:14:42  
Phil in MS, Here in Texas, The difference in "road dsl" & "offroad dsl" is a good $.50. Well worth your time to fill out your paper work and get it into the MS comptroller office. Get your cert. #, and leave a copy at a few jobbers in your area, so you buy from the cheapest sourse.
Here most jobbers won't deliver less than 500 gal. You may need to put you tank on a trailer and haul your own. If you are only need 250 gal/ yr. or less.
I an trying to finish up on my DSL trailer but haven't found a good used short, tandem axle trailer to put my 250 gal , converted LP tank on. Will use Air pressure to power the fuel out, and not an elec pump.
Anyway, Go get your state fuel permit , it is worth it .
Later,
John A.

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Michael Soldan

11-17-2004 20:11:10




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 Re: Tractor Fuel Storage in reply to Phil in MS, 11-17-2004 11:14:42  
I'm like some of you guys, because I didn't use a lot of fuel I didn't get my tanks filled. I found that a 200 gallon tank was getting close to a year and some before I got to the bottom of it and the fuel was..well old I guess. I started buying it from the pump in 5 gallon cans and the only time I had to buy a lot was at haying time, but fuel prices kept going higher and now diesel is more than gasoline at the pumps and I can't understand why...so the other day I cleaned my tank out and painted it and ordered dyed diesel fuel from my dealer. This cost 69.9 per literx5.5 which is $3.84 per gallon(Imperial) or$3.07 for a US gallon. At the pumps it was 79.9 per liter or$4.39 an Imperial gallon or $3.51 US. The road tax savings is $.55 an Imperial gallon or $.10 a liter. This is a 100 gallon tank so it will do me well into the summer, I just have snow to blow and some handling of big rounds, and some manure, any way you cut the cake fuel prices are hurting everyone. It costs me about $75 to fill my pick -up..I have to work a day a week just for fuel for the week...Mike in Exeter Ontario

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Jerry/MT

11-17-2004 19:07:49




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 Re: Tractor Fuel Storage in reply to Phil in MS, 11-17-2004 11:14:42  
Where I live, the difference between farm diesel and road diesel is $0.45. If I have it delivered in the quantities I use, it would cost me as much or more than road diesel. I bought a 55 gallon fuel drum and a barrel pump and a drum lifter. I put the barrel into my p/u with the drum lifter and drive it to the local Cenex and fill it with red dye diesel, take it home and using my loader and the drum lifter set it in my fuel storage area. It works for me!

I used to pack diesel home in 5 gallon Gerry cans and lift 'em up to pour into my tractor. I'm a little long in the tooth to continue doing that and at near $2 per gallon, the cost of what I spilled was significant.

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kjm

11-17-2004 19:06:05




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 Re: Tractor Fuel Storage in reply to Phil in MS, 11-17-2004 11:14:42  
Phil, Here(MO) we can buy farm fuel at the pump a lot cheaper than the tank truck. I have a clean 50 gal barrel to put in the back of the truck and pump it off at home. The best part is I don`t worry about the fuel going bad from sitting too long. KJM



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Gerald J.

11-17-2004 16:15:07




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 Re: Tractor Fuel Storage in reply to Phil in MS, 11-17-2004 11:14:42  
In Iowa and on the federal income tax return you can apply for a refund of road taxes for fuel that you used for farming. Form 4136. Total refund is nearly 50 cents a gallon on diesel fuel. A delivery ticket from a tank wagon is the best evidence, but so far I've not had troubles with individual purchase tickets bought in 2.5 and 5 gallon cans.

Gerald J.



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Sid

11-17-2004 12:37:54




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 Re: Tractor Fuel Storage in reply to Phil in MS, 11-17-2004 11:14:42  
My neighbor bought his own tank said he had a tank owned by the distributo and it was costing him about eight cents a gallon more to have delivered than he could get at the pump. He found another distrubator that will deivler cheaper. I belive he said right now it is about the same as pump price and more convenient for him. I found a place I can by off road about five cents cheaper than I could get it delivered. Since I only by 100 gals. at a time I can"t get it delivered. If I start buying gasoline farm delivered at the same time I order deisel I can make the min. order. It will be about the same price but the convience will be worth it and I can time an order when the price is down.

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Sid

11-17-2004 12:37:42




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 Re: Tractor Fuel Storage in reply to Phil in MS, 11-17-2004 11:14:42  
My neighbor bought his own tank said he had a tank owned by the distributo and it was costing him about eight cents a gallon more to have delivered than he could get at the pump. He found another distrubator that will deivler cheaper. I belive he said right now it is about the same as pump price and more convenient for him. I found a place I can by off road about five cents cheaper than I could get it delivered. Since I only by 100 gals. at a time I can"t get it delivered. If I start buying gasoline farm delivered at the same time I order deisel I can make the min. order. It will be about the same price but the convience will be worth it and I can time an order when the price is down.

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