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Rust Converter

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tg in VA

11-11-2004 19:44:07




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I bought a used New Holland manure spreader that is prety rusty, inside and out. I was contemplating sand blasting and painting it until I received a catalogue from Gempler's advertising something called rust converter. You just wire brush the heavy scale and apply. This primes the surface making it ready to paint.

This sounds too simple. Has anyone tried it and if so, does it work as well as the catalogue claims?

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Tim in NB

11-13-2004 15:04:35




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 Re: Rust Converter in reply to tg in VA, 11-11-2004 19:44:07  
Check out www.eastwoodco.com
They have lots of this sort of stuff.



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Bonnan Bui

11-13-2004 14:23:10




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 Re: Rust Converter in reply to tg in VA, 11-11-2004 19:44:07  
I use a rust converter called Rust-Mort but there are other good ones. Very popular with the antique auto restorators; available at supply houses that cater to that crowd. I apply rustoleum as final coat coat.



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Bushogpapa

11-12-2004 11:15:08




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 Re: Rust Converter in reply to tg in VA, 11-11-2004 19:44:07  
I think the active ingredient in the converter is Phosphoric acid...a lot cheaper than the wall-mart stuff...



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Tim(nj)

11-12-2004 11:21:12




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 Re: Rust Converter in reply to Bushogpapa, 11-12-2004 11:15:08  
tannic acid



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Errin OH

11-12-2004 08:14:22




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 Re: Rust Converter - Jim or Jay in reply to tg in VA, 11-11-2004 19:44:07  
Jim / Jay What type paint did you use with it? Do you think manufactures (JD) paint would work? I have a 16' grain head auger that is all surface rust and I am not looking forward to wire brushing it to paint it.



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Jay (ND)

11-12-2004 09:16:29




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 Re: Rust Converter - Jim or Jay in reply to Errin OH, 11-12-2004 08:14:22  
I used it with an Acryllic Enamel paint from Sherwin Williams - I couldn't tell you exactly which one - loved the paint though - you have to when you put out 4K just for paint.



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sammy the RED

11-12-2004 15:29:37




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 Re: Rust Converter - Jim or Jay in reply to Jay (ND), 11-12-2004 09:16:29  
4K for S-W Alkalyde Enamel ?
Man, that alot of paint !



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Jay (ND)

11-12-2004 18:21:59




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 Re: Rust Converter - Jim or Jay in reply to sammy the RED, 11-12-2004 15:29:37  
I should qualify that - some of that 4k was primer =)



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Jay (ND)

11-12-2004 14:29:18




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 Re: Rust Converter - Jim or Jay in reply to Jay (ND), 11-12-2004 09:16:29  
grrr - on reflection, i think it was an Alkalyde Enamel - Basically oil based paint.

I would use it in your application - I would use it on anything that had surface rust that perfect appearance isn't necessary. The stuff I used turned the rust white. I think more important than the paint, would be which primer you use.

The spots that I used it on look better than the spots where it was paint on paint.

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greenbeanman

11-12-2004 07:21:31




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 Re: Rust Converter in reply to tg in VA, 11-11-2004 19:44:07  
Until this past week I didn't even know that rust converter existed. I read about its uses on another forum.

The folk there told that Walmart carries such a product at substantial savings. Don't know if you use Walmart or not, but that is your option. Just letting you know.



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JiminIA

11-12-2004 06:25:22




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 Re: Rust Converter in reply to tg in VA, 11-11-2004 19:44:07  
I have used Gemplers rust converter and rust remover both work exellent. I use the rust remover to free up stuck motors, and have used the converter on several truck frames and other equipment...Jim



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Ol Chief

11-12-2004 17:56:08




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 Re: Rust Converter in reply to JiminIA, 11-12-2004 06:25:22  
I have remarked on this subject several times in the past.If the stuff turns white when dry it is most probably phosphoric acid.It is used on deep sea ships by the drum,to kill rust. In the process it converts iron oxide to iron phosphate making the oxide innert.If you cannot paint right away you will likely find that it hold off new rust for many days.Also it can be cut with water 50 per cent and used to remove oxide from old weathered painted surfaces.Caution though, do not use it on surfaces that have aluminum trim unless you are prepared to quickly neutralize the aluminum area with a strong solution of baking soda.I worked for years on passenger ships and use of this material on all of the white painted superstructure was the only way to keep them looking new.Use it extensively on surface rust but do not apply to heavy scale without first cleaning with a needle gun or scaling hammer.It is available also at Lowes and Home Depot under the trade name " Ospho ".

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Jay (ND)

11-12-2004 05:30:08




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 Re: Rust Converter in reply to tg in VA, 11-11-2004 19:44:07  
I used some (not Gemplers brand) on some fuel tanks about 6 or 7 years ago. It worked as claimed. Paint is still on those spots quite nicely. I only had surface rust, I don"t think it would work with bubbling rust. I also don"t think I would use it on anything that I wanted to look real pretty, but for my tanks, it was perfect.



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