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wade

11-11-2004 16:34:51




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grandpa's disk in now mine but, need a rebuild need to get " pill box" style bearings? has no roller bearings just used grease. and what color was kewannee. grandpa said it was a kewannee but my father thought they were white, this one has red color bearings and in one corner inside the frame i see it is red the rest is,,well rust. what size do you get for blades. do you leave like a one inch gap between the frame and the blade, or whats the normal way of determineing. and can someone tell me where to get new bearings.thanks

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Leland

11-14-2004 19:30:28




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 Re: need help with disk?? in reply to wade, 11-11-2004 16:34:51  
Just call factory it is still going strong,it's simple disk named after town.Fairly good sized operation used to drop off steel in there once a week coming off the east coast. They can tell just where to go they may still have parts somewhere.



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Wade

11-15-2004 17:26:22




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 Re: need help with disk?? in reply to Leland, 11-14-2004 19:30:28  
can you tell me the number. i trying looking on internet and i get everything but what i want for kewannee



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Leland

11-15-2004 21:33:13




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 Re: need help with disk?? in reply to Wade, 11-15-2004 17:26:22  
I will try don't let me forget my parts house is close to them.I can ask them next time I make a parts order.



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Tim(nj)

11-12-2004 21:16:59




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 Re: need help with disk?? in reply to wade, 11-11-2004 16:34:51  
Call Agri - Supply to get a catalog, 1-800-345-0169. They have some cast iron bearing spools and caps listed. Whether or not they"ll fit your disk, I don"t know. Good luck.

BTW, Neighbor"s Kewanee disk is red with yellow wheels, but his Kewanee packer-harrow is green with yellow wheels.



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wade

11-12-2004 16:16:50




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 Re: need help with disk?? in reply to wade, 11-11-2004 16:34:51  
I know only one thing they did not use wood in the bearings i have. they had big long grease zerks coming off the top. they split with the axle, made of cast iron. it uses a spacer that has raised rings on it (probly to hold tension from movering back and forth) this raised ring pacer is the same lenght as the other spacers on the disk. I do not see them in the shoup catalog but am going to look online. anyone know what i'm talking about???

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paul

11-12-2004 17:19:37




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 Re: need help with disk?? in reply to wade, 11-12-2004 16:16:50  
My 2 old IHC discs (no lift wheels) has those, I knew what you were talking about from the beginning - but alas, I'm no help, don't know where to find such things....

They will run another 20 years if you grease them every 15-20 acres - liberally. That's how it's done around here.

--->Paul



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wade

11-12-2004 18:20:32




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 Re: need help with disk?? in reply to paul, 11-12-2004 17:19:37  
i think they would last about another 20 years, but i have a couple front gang bearing where the first little edge is broke off. 2 of the 9 total bearing. one is a wear hole starting and can probly be welded shut. but my father said he would pay to have new ones so thats why i'm looking. i guess two bad bearings isn't thats bad just pump more grease to them. and by the way the disk i have is a wheel disk and the wheels have roller type bearings and seals. go figure they must have thought like me, this type of bearing is stronger than the roller type and runs in the dirt just pump the dirt out with new grease always. very simple bearing. if any ideas on places to get bearings?

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Allan in NE

11-12-2004 02:41:32




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 Re: need help with disk?? in reply to wade, 11-11-2004 16:34:51  
Hi Wade,

How wide is this disc?

Seems to me that Kewannie (sp?) discs were red with yellow lettering. Probably used either a 18 or 20" blade, if it is the disc I'm thinking of.

True Pillow Block bearings (As I remember, were pressure-oilsoaked hardwood against the rotating shaft) went out a long, long time ago. I remember them on old rotary hoes when I was your age and we had to change out the blocks every few years.

Are you sure the disc just doesn't have greasable boxed bearings?

I really don't know for sure, but I'm as old as your grandpa and I am tryin' to help ya,

Allan

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Allis

11-12-2004 04:28:16




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 Re: need help with disk?? in reply to Allan in NE, 11-12-2004 02:41:32  
I have the same problem with an Allis Chalmers mounted disc. There are no grease fitting in the bearings. All the shafts rotate and they seem tight but there appears no way to grease them. My disk is around "58 vintage so I think it would be beyond the oil-soaked hardwood era. Any ideas?



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paul

11-12-2004 17:22:47




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 Re: need help with disk?? in reply to Allis, 11-12-2004 04:28:16  
Without grease fittings, you either have some of the last wooden bearings, or the first sealed bearings..... ;)

--->Paul



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Allan in NE

11-12-2004 05:51:59




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 Re: need help with disk?? in reply to Allis, 11-12-2004 04:28:16  
Mornin',

Sometimes, I wish I had paid more attention back then!

I can't imagine a '58 model disc with Pillow Blocks, although I think they still did use 'em in some equipment at different wear points.

Can you snap a picture of the bearing boss? Might be able to get a better handle on it that way. Does the bearing boss split along the axis of the axle or perpendicular to it?

You might even have some of the first sealed bearings, who knows?

Allan

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Allan in NE

11-12-2004 05:48:59




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 Re: need help with disk?? in reply to Allis, 11-12-2004 04:28:16  
Mornin',

Sometimes, I wish I had paid more attention back then!

I can't imagine a '58 model disc with Pillow Blocks, although I think they still did use 'em in some equipment at different wear points.

Can you snap a picture of the bearing boss? Might be able to get a better handle on it that way. Does the bearing boss split along the axis of the axle or perpendicular to it?

You might even have some of the first sealed bearings, who knows?

Allan

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jhill

11-12-2004 05:44:59




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 Re: need help with disk?? in reply to Allis, 11-12-2004 04:28:16  
Try and agco dealer or Shoupmfg.net



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jhill

11-11-2004 19:48:59




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 Re: need help with disk?? in reply to wade, 11-11-2004 16:34:51  
The Kewannee discs I remember had Yellow frames. The rest including wheels was red.



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Leroy

11-12-2004 16:53:00




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 Re: need help with disk?? in reply to jhill, 11-11-2004 19:48:59  
Never seen a yellow frame all red and red in their advertising



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wade

11-11-2004 20:40:38




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 Re: need help with disk?? in reply to jhill, 11-11-2004 19:48:59  
any idea where to get these bearings at????



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jhill

11-12-2004 05:42:18




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 Re: need help with disk?? in reply to wade, 11-11-2004 20:40:38  
I would try Shoupmfg.com. They carry lots of sizes.



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JMS/MN

11-13-2004 07:35:36




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 Re: need help with disk?? in reply to jhill, 11-12-2004 05:42:18  
www.schoupparts.com- 1-800-627-6137.



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