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Steam cleaning a 14T baler-yes or no ?

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Randy-IA

11-06-2004 21:38:16




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Hi all , I just got a 14t and after the drive home on about 20 miles of gravel road the old lube is full of dirt and sand . I have a steam cleaner at work but is it a good idea ? Of course I also plan on working on the knotters and putting new chains on it . But to see the knotters I need to clean them and since it's been sitting outside for a while the twine holders and the billhook are a little rusty so I want to remove them and polish them up some , sharpen the twine knives , shim the plunger snug and replace some bushings . It's timed pretty good right now though I haven't baled with it but it had fresh hay in it when I picked it up and was told it baled this spring . Also are the twine guides in the needles replaceable ? Thanks for any input . Randy-IA

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Randy-IA

11-09-2004 17:05:33




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 Re: Steam cleaning a 14T baler-yes or no ? in reply to Randy-IA, 11-06-2004 21:38:16  
Hi , Thanks for the input everone . I cleaned it up and greased the .... out of it . To late for the oil on all the bare metal as it had been sitting outside uncovered all summer before I got it so it's already got a good coat of rust on it . Hoping that will scour off when I get to use it next spring . Randy-IA



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Farmer in the Dells (WI)

11-07-2004 14:05:39




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 Re: Steam cleaning a 14T baler-yes or no ? in reply to Randy-IA, 11-06-2004 21:38:16  
Have not used steam but do pressure wash both of my 14T balers at the end of the season. Am doing that this week. Then I grease all the fittings and spray the knotters down until they drip oil. Don't forget to coat the chute with used motor oil or any lube. Leaving grass in there to collect water and rot will do your chute more harm holding the moisture next to the metal. Come spring I spray the knotters again, roll it a few times and they are good to go, As far as how it works, I have had few problems with mine. When they work they work well. Get yourself a pack of shear pins for the flywheel counterweight so you won't be broke down in the middle of the operation. I ran to the dealer at least twice the first season I used them. Over time I broke less and less knowing what the baler sounds like. You will be able to tell if you could increase your ground speed or slow down to let the intake clear. Since I have been dragging it behind a live PTO I have not replaced a handful. I also have both size wrenches in the twine box and can replace one and get going faster. I have a couple manuals if you need any specs or info. There is also a "dog" that runs horizontal near the bottom of the knotter that I believe is the cutting operation for the twine. Keep that lubed as well. I spray that before I start each time and loose fewer bales. Make a note what size twine is in the box. I found 9000 sisal in mine. Tried a couple of others including plastic and came back to the 9000 sisal type. Last tip I found out the hard way is when making turns, I turn the PTO off and let it freewheel through the turn. It never fully stops and I turn it back on the way out of the turn. Try it and it sounds different. From what I have read here taking the stress off the drive through the turns will increase the life of the universal joints. Don't forget to lube those too. There are some hidden fittings around that only have access holes. I can post a lube chart if you need one. There is only one in the center of the intake auger that has to be lined up to hit by turning the flywheel counterweight. Making sure that one has plenty will help. Just my two cents and for what that�s worth, keep the change.

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RickB

11-07-2004 04:10:06




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 Re: Steam cleaning a 14T baler-yes or no ? in reply to Randy-IA, 11-06-2004 21:38:16  
I am a NH guy so I will leave the JD answers to someone else. I absolutely would wash the baler. Blow the knotters off with compressed air when done and spray with you choice of penetrating oil. Give them the whole machine a light greasing to force any hidden water out.



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TP from Central PA

11-07-2004 05:21:50




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 Re: Steam cleaning a 14T baler-yes or no ? in reply to RickB, 11-07-2004 04:10:06  
Rick has it right..... ..... We always power washed our balers(Hot water washer) and then coated them with motor oil before winter. Come spring they oil would have all dripped off(really just a rust preventative for dirt floor sheds) and it was ready to go.



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RobN

11-07-2004 05:33:59




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 Re: Steam cleaning a 14T baler-yes or no ? in reply to TP from Central PA, 11-07-2004 05:21:50  
Parts book lists rollers and rivets for the needles. 16H 1748 (1/4" x 13/16") & BP 13227 E. I assume these parts are still available. HTH.



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