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What to do first with running 1949 8n

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Dale chastain

11-04-2004 05:55:58

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Just purchased. What is best to do first on 8n. Also, what are the best manuals to have. And lastly, what is the small lever for located under seat on right side attached to tractor. Thanks, Dale

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Bkeepr

11-06-2004 09:06:57

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Re: What to do first with running 1949 8n in reply to Dale chastain, 11-04-2004 05:55:58

Besides the shop manual, I'd really suggest you get a reprint of the operator's manual...it tells a lot of basic information, like what gears to plow in, and how to hook stuff up all really very helpful.

good luck,
Tom A

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Al in PA

11-04-2004 17:04:08

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Re: What to do first with running 1949 8n in reply to Dale chastain, 11-04-2004 05:55:58

I read your post below. In addition to the good advice you've received here, you should install an over-running clutch on your PTO shaft if one did not come with your tractor and mower. This will keep the momentum of the mower from pushing you forward when you are trying to brake. It's a very necessary safety device.

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Dale chastain

11-04-2004 19:14:38

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Re: What to do first with running 1949 8n in reply to Al in PA, 11-04-2004 17:04:08

Al, What exactly do you mean? Where and if could i get one? How hard to install? Lastly, how much is one? Thanks for your help, Dale just north of Tampa.

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Al in PA

11-04-2004 19:56:23

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Re: What to do first with running 1949 8n in reply to Dale chastain, 11-04-2004 19:14:38

You can purchase an over-running clutch at any tractor dealer or farm supply store. They run about $60.00. It attaches to the end of your PTO splined shaft on the back of your tractor; then attach the drive shaft for your mower to the over-running clutch. Since your PTO shaft is driven through your transmission (non-live PTO), the momentum of the spinning blades will continue to drive the transmission - and therefore your tractor - even when you are standing on your brakes. This can keep you from stopping your tractor in time in an emergency situation. The clutch is a rachet that only provides power to the mower; not the reverse.

Picture of PTO Clutch

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Al in PA

11-04-2004 20:06:57

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Re: What to do first with running 1949 8n in reply to Al in PA, 11-04-2004 19:56:23

I forgot to mention. The newer tractors have a larger diameter PTO shaft than the original on the 8N. There are two types of clutches to accommodate this situation: Smaller female/larger male splines for the older shaft; same size female/male splines for the newer shaft. If your tractor has the original shaft (1 1/8" I believe), you need the small to large adapter: Otherwise, you would use the larger female/male diameter (1 3/8" I believe). You should be able to see the difference if you hold the two adapters side by side; also should be stated on the label/price tag.

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RickB

11-04-2004 14:13:24

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Re: What to do first with running 1949 8n in reply to Dale chastain, 11-04-2004 05:55:58

First thing I would do is sell it..... .. But I have a bad attitude about 'N's.

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Dale chastain

11-04-2004 15:58:02

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Re: What to do first with running 1949 8n in reply to RickB, 11-04-2004 14:13:24

Why the problem with the 8n. Is there something i should know. Thanks, Dale

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paul

11-04-2004 22:01:12

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Re: What to do first with running 1949 8n in reply to Dale chastain, 11-04-2004 15:58:02

I'm a different person, but:

They seem to have a collector status, so in many areas are over-priced for what they are.

They do not have live pto or live hydraulics.

They don't have many gears to choose from, so hard to match up speed for different jobs.

Now, don't misunderstand - they were real trend setters, and had many new & good features - 60 years ago. :) Niffty old tractors. Fun to restore, easy to find parts for, simple to work on.

But often for the same money one can find a tractor a little newer with many more features.

Depends if you want to collect & restore it, or actually use it.

And lots & lots of people are using them, so don't let us be a downer. :) :) :) Just personal preference. I own 4 Fords, so not a color war. :)

--->Paul

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Greywolf

11-06-2004 04:41:02

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Re: What to do first with running 1949 8n in reply to paul, 11-04-2004 22:01:12

The guy on the corner in town does seem to be a little high priced on Fords, I agree Paul.

I have an 8n, but i couldn't complain on the price, it came with the place. When ya sit down an figure out how often each gets used around here, the little Ford probably gets as many hours as the 2670 does.

Now if I just had a shop and billfold to make it look pretty....LOL.

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paul

11-08-2004 09:11:22

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Re: What to do first with running 1949 8n in reply to Greywolf, 11-06-2004 04:41:02

My understanding is he is pretty high-priced on _all_ his machines, but I've never really stopped there to shop. Drive by every day! :)

--->Paul

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RickB

11-05-2004 14:09:47

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Thanks Paul, Well put. in reply to paul, 11-04-2004 22:01:12

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Rick Kr

11-04-2004 08:05:55

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Re: What to do first with running 1949 8n in reply to Dale chastain, 11-04-2004 05:55:58

Dale,
Everything I buy that contains oil, grease, etc. I change immediately. My last purchase was a 1998 NH with 500 hours. Manual called for 1200 hours to change hydraulic fluid, but to me it was good insurance. Dumped the engine oil, filters, coolant, everything. Lube all pivots, loader pins, etc. The other thing it allowed me to do is kind of learn my way around the tractor a little better. It sure was a lot different and bigger than the Kubota I had before.
Just my opinion,
Rick

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Dale Chastain

11-04-2004 15:55:18

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Re: What to do first with running 1949 8n in reply to Rick Kr, 11-04-2004 08:05:55

Thanks for the great information. Dale

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Michael Soldan

11-04-2004 06:38:06

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Re: What to do first with running 1949 8n in reply to Dale chastain, 11-04-2004 05:55:58

I'm with Steve, and I would change the rear gear oil right off the bat as well. Walmart has 80-90 gear oil for $27 as opposed to $60-80 at a tractor dealers...Mike in Exeter Ontario

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Dale Chastain

11-04-2004 15:53:23

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Re: What to do first with running 1949 8n in reply to Michael Soldan, 11-04-2004 06:38:06

Thanks for the info. Dale

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Steve (Magnolia, TX)

11-04-2004 06:30:29

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Re: What to do first with running 1949 8n in reply to Dale chastain, 11-04-2004 05:55:58

What to do first? How well do you know the seller and his maintenance schedule? Assuming not very well, I"d change the engine oil and filter (don"t forget the air cleaner cup), check the hydraulic oil for water (it should NOT be milky), check the coolant for oil (there shouldn"t be any) and probably do an electrical tuneup (points/condensor, plugs, wires, cap/rotor).

What are the best manuals to have? Start off with the I&T FO-4, you can get it here, eBay, Tractor Supply, New Holland, lots of places. I was able to purchase ALL of the manuals for these tractors on one CD (in .pdf format) for ~$30. I"m sure that someone will have the link to the gentleman that sells them.

What is the small lever for, located under the seat on the right side? That"s your "Position Control/Draft Control" selector. Draft Control (used for ground engaging implements, i.e. plows) is the "horizontal" position. Position Control (useful for maintaining the height, above ground, of implements such as mowers, boom poles, drawbars, etc.) is the "vertical" position. Unless you hook up your 3-point-hitch, 2 bottom plow, I"d suggest leaving it in position control mode.

Lastly... I"d recommend the 9N, 2N, 8N board on this website. It is dedicated to these tractors and there"s a veritable plethora of information available over there...

HTH

Steve

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Dale chastain

11-04-2004 15:51:00

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Re: What to do first with running 1949 8n in reply to Steve (Magnolia, TX), 11-04-2004 06:30:29

Thanks for the great info. I will change all the fluids soon. And perform a tuneup aswell. Thanks Dale

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