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stu in nj

11-03-2004 15:03:58




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I used a stack wagon this year for the frist time. Only problem I have is the bottom bales get mold on them we had alot of hay down to put them on. is there any way to stop this and save the bales? thanks stu.




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Hayfarmer

11-04-2004 21:03:43




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 Re: stack wagon users in reply to stu in nj, 11-03-2004 15:03:58  
In my area of the country they guys have used staker wagons for years. Most barns have shale rock floors. Generally the floor is built up from the surrounding ground so it drains. Many of the guys now use the bigger wagons with "block stack" capability. They use the wagons to bring hay in from the field and a squeeze to stack it. They can then stack on plastic or whatever without tearing it. I have used heavy plastic with some loose hay sctteed on it and it seems to help.

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RickL

11-04-2004 12:02:09




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 Re: stack wagon users in reply to stu in nj, 11-03-2004 15:03:58  
Can you make a large pallet to set it off on? Just a thought. Thats what I always do is sit mine down on pallets,but I use a grapple/accumulator system. I do know fellow who sits his stacks off outside then takes them in with grapple. He like it that way he also grapples back out. He sets down on pallets also.



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RickL

11-04-2004 12:01:42




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 Re: stack wagon users in reply to stu in nj, 11-03-2004 15:03:58  
Can you make a large pallet to set it off on? Just a thought. Thats what I always do is sit mine down on pallets,but I use a grapple/accumulator system. I do know fellow who sits his stacks off outside then takes them in with grapple. He like it that way he also grapples back out. He sets down on pallets also.



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David in MD

11-04-2004 08:57:56




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 Re: stack wagon users in reply to stu in nj, 11-03-2004 15:03:58  
My pole building came with an asphalt floor. With it's oil base it seems that asphalt doesn't transmit soil moisture up like concrete. If the hay is good and dry it won't mold. If it is slightly damp it molds. I've seen a set up where the guy made big pallets that he placed on the rolling rack before loading each load. When the load is pushed off it is sitting on a pallet off the ground. About a third of my floor hay molds but I've been able sell it to a local dairy farmer for ~$2 per bale. I normally sell horse quality hay for $3-4 per bale.

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David in MD

11-04-2004 08:55:11




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 Re: stack wagon users in reply to stu in nj, 11-03-2004 15:03:58  
My pole building came with an asphalt floor. With it's oil base it seems that asphalt doesn't transmit soil moisture up like concrete. If the hay is good and dry it won't mold. If it is slightly damp it molds. I've seen a set up where the guy made big pallets that he placed on the rolling rack before loading each load. When the load is pushed off it is sitting on a pallet off the ground. About a third of my floor hay molds but I've been able sell it to a local dairy farmer for ~$2 per bale. I normally sell horse quality hay for $3-4 per bale.

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Dale in IN

11-04-2004 05:25:10




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 Re: stack wagon users in reply to stu in nj, 11-03-2004 15:03:58  
Yes I have the same problem. I have some cement floor which it does not seem to be as bad on. The rest is heavy stone with plastic laid over it. It is hard to keep from tearing the plastic when unloading. The plastic has been down over 2 years and I do not clean the chaff off of it. This seems to help. Where the plastic is tore I get quite a bit of mold. Even have parimiter drain around the barn and eve troughs tied into it for drainage. I usually feed the bottom bales to cattle or sell it at a reduced rate to cattle people. Cattle can handle the mold.

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kyhayman

11-03-2004 18:34:47




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 Re: stack wagon users in reply to stu in nj, 11-03-2004 15:03:58  
Thats the biggest problem I have too. If you get to much hay down then it just pulls it out and leaves the bales on the ground. I address it multi-fold. 1 barn I dump in has a concrete floor, while the bottoms may discolor some it tend to not be baly damaged, 2 barns I have put down compacted #2 crushed stone and it seems to be doing VERY well. Other barns I hand stack on poles to protect the bottoms and then when I fill out the driveway I feed the bottom bales. That is the greatest challenge in the hay business I have found, dealing with the unmarketable product. When I changed my business from raising hay to feed my cows to raising hay to sell and keeping cows to feed unmarketable hay to it drastically improved my bottom line.

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Tim(nj)

11-03-2004 17:32:28




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 Re: stack wagon users in reply to stu in nj, 11-03-2004 15:03:58  
What kind of floor is under the loose hay?



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stu in nj

11-04-2004 06:50:39




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 Re: stack wagon users in reply to Tim(nj), 11-03-2004 17:32:28  
Tim, the floor is red shale.We stacked on pallits befor with no mold.Maybe the answer is to dig up floor and put plsstic down no fun but I can't aford the loss. Someone I know killed his bull feeding bales with some kind of white mold on it atlest thats what vet said be carefull. thanks stu



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