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Bolts on a plow: dumb question

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Bkeepr

10-23-2004 14:02:23

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The rolling landside on my old Dearborn 10-153 plow has come loose. When I turn the nuts to tighten it, the whole bolt turns. There's no head to grab onto, because it is recessed into the plow...what's the trick? I can't loosen or tighten it.

thanks!
Tom A

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Roy in UK

10-24-2004 02:16:38

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Re: Bolts on a plow: dumb question in reply to Bkeepr, 10-23-2004 14:02:23

Done this trick when cultivator/ chisel plow point or plow shares point bolts spin around ( annoying ain't it!) during removal.
1. Put a small blob of weld on the bolt head/landslide to fasten it.
2. Remove nut.
3. Grind off weld.
4. knock the old bolt out.
You never put the old nuts and bolts back on anyway. Its false economy to put old bolts back on when you replace plow shares/ points etc.

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JMS/MN

10-23-2004 22:55:23

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Re: Bolts on a plow: dumb question in reply to Bkeepr, 10-23-2004 14:02:23

Torch it off, and you'll see if the base is a tapered hole with four corners, or oval. What do you mean by a 'rolling landside'? The landside is a flat steel plate on the left side of the plow bottom. Generally, plow bolts, with four points, are used to attach all parts except the plow share, which might be attached with clipped, or oval bolts. Depends on age of the plow. Sometimes shins are atached with clipped bolts. Depends on the plow.

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Farmered

10-24-2004 05:29:13

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Re: Bolts on a plow: dumb question in reply to JMS/MN, 10-23-2004 22:55:23

Dearborn plows and possibly some others used what they called a rolling landside. It is a conical steel wheel mounted at an angle so the side of the wheel is flat against the land. It is adjustable for side pressure and height. The solid landside plate is shorter on the back bottom to accomodate the wheel. Ed

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rolling landside

10-24-2004 05:28:57

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Re: Bolts on a plow: dumb question in reply to JMS/MN, 10-23-2004 22:55:23

A rolling landside was invented by Henry Ford at his test farm in Michigan. It is a steel wheel at the back of the plow that rides along the flat cut left in the soil by the plow in front of it. He determined that by positioning it "just right" it would reduce the pull required by the plow by 40-50%, so a smaller tractor could pull a bigger plow easier.

Most (all?) the old Dearborn plows have them.

Bkeepr: Tom A

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CLH2O in IND

10-23-2004 16:21:19

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Re: Bolts on a plow: Indydirtfarmer in reply to Bkeepr, 10-23-2004 14:02:23

Looking for some clipped head bolts.Do you know where I can find them? Thanks ED

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Farmered

10-24-2004 05:20:00

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Re: Bolts on a plow: Indydirtfarmer in reply to CLH2O in IND, 10-23-2004 16:21:19

Your John Deere dealer has clipped head plow bolts in several sizes. Ed

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Indydirtfarmer

10-23-2004 16:27:37

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Re: Bolts on a plow: Indydirtfarmer in reply to CLH2O in IND, 10-23-2004 16:21:19

My "source" is blocked on here. I'll try to clue you in without saying the name...

Valu- is the first part, and Bilt is the second part....Comprende'? Another source is Agri- supply e-mail me at [email protected], and I'll give you the phone #. If you know the size (dia) and lenghts you need, I can give you their "order #" Good luck. John

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Indydirtfarmer

10-23-2004 14:47:49

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Re: Bolts on a plow: dumb question in reply to Bkeepr, 10-23-2004 14:02:23

Plows use a couple different types of bolts. One goes by the name of "clipped head" bolt. They have sort of an oval head. They're usually on the shares. The other type comes in various sizes. They are #1, #2, #3, ect plow bolts. They are much like a carraige bolt, only with a flat head. They are meant to be flush with the surface, and the square "shoulder" SHOULD prevent it from turning.

I've worked on a number of used plows that have these bolts replaced with common hex bolts that have the heads ground flat. They're impossible to remove without a torch.

Sometimes the shouldered plow bolts will turn through, rather than hold without turning, because the nut has siezed. If you don't have a replacement bolt, try tackwelding the head so that it doesn't turn, then tighten it. Afterwards, you can grind the weld down flush (if needed). John

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John *.?-!.* cub owner

10-23-2004 16:08:57

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Re: Bolts on a plow: dumb question in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 10-23-2004 14:47:49

Same procedure works for removing them.

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