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Jim Calhoun

10-20-2004 17:07:04




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I am restoring an old Minneapolis Moline baler and just got it back together.

I timed it by the book with the plunger and needles moved to the proper position.

While running through the cycle, just to make sure I did everything right, the needles end up 1/2 inch too high.

When I tried to correct it by purposely having the needle be lower in the timing procedure, it comes out 1 inch too low.

There doesn't seem to be an in between, which is where the book says I need to be. The tip of the needle should be 1/2 inch below the top plate on the bale chamber.

I timed it again and went back to the first position.

Which is best to try first, too high or too low?
Or any suggestions on getting the needles just right?

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Farmered

10-20-2004 19:11:05




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 Re: Baler timing in reply to Jim Calhoun, 10-20-2004 17:07:04  
There should be a turnbuckle in the rod that connects the knotter with the needles. Use this to fine tune the timing after getting it as close as you can with chain links. The bolts that hold the needle to the frame will have more effect on the location of the needle as it passes the twine disc. After you get the needles right, adjust the twine fingers in their relationship to the needles. Good luck .Ed

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ChrisL

10-20-2004 17:52:25




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 Re: Baler timing in reply to Jim Calhoun, 10-20-2004 17:07:04  
Don't know if this will help - but on a different brand of baler the needles appear to bolt onto their frame with two bolts - but there is actually some adjustment there by losing one and tightening the other - or the holes were just a little slotted - but it made a big difference in where the needles ended up.....



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Punchie

10-20-2004 19:16:06




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 Re: Baler timing in reply to ChrisL, 10-20-2004 17:52:25  
Just Guessing but here are a few things I would look at.

Shear pin for needles. Brake to hold needle in home position.
Twine to tight coming out of twine box.
Ram stop.



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ChrisL

10-20-2004 17:51:11




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 Re: Baler timing in reply to Jim Calhoun, 10-20-2004 17:07:04  
Don't know if this will help - but on a different brand of baler the needles appear to bolt onto their frame with two bolts - but there is actually some adjustment there by losing one and tightening the other - or the holes were just a little slotted - but it made a big difference in where the needles ended up.....



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TimS

10-25-2004 08:27:28




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 Re: Baler timing in reply to ChrisL, 10-20-2004 17:51:11  
Don't forget the Chains!

You may have done this already but replacing all the chains on my JD 14T ( cost about $40 total ) solved my problems where I couldn't get it to time even with the manual.

Of course, your baler may not have chains.



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