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New

10-19-2004 21:12:07




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I have found an old two row corn picker. It is complete except the center snout, which is missing.
I believe it is a model 200.
I need to know if the old John Deere pickers are worth hauling home to fix up to use.
I have heard that New Idea is the best picker, how does the JD stack up?
Any comments would be appreciated.




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fixeruppers

10-20-2004 17:46:57




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 Re: John Deere Corn Pickers in reply to New, 10-19-2004 21:12:07  
Around here the New Idea was the cleanest picking machine around. The 300 Deere left less shelled corn on the ground because of the stripper head but the tradeoff was the stripper head brought more trash into the machine which gave the husking rolls more of a load. If you want to stick with a 1950 - 1960's era machine the New Idea will give you cleaner corn, which means less work with the corn rake when it comes time to shell out the crib.

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Scotty

10-20-2004 14:02:05




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 Re: John Deere Corn Pickers in reply to New, 10-19-2004 21:12:07  
For Me the NI's seem to shell an awful lot of corn in the snapping rolls. But I still really like the machines. Dont know how they stack up to a JD though; But I have heard they shell much less corn. NI is also cheaper usually. Scotty



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Tim(nj)

10-20-2004 14:49:33




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 Re: John Deere Corn Pickers in reply to Scotty, 10-20-2004 14:02:05  
The 200 is a late-forties picker with a side elevator. It has the same style snapper system as the NI of the time. The 200A is basically the same except the elevator comes out the rear of the machine. The later JD 300 pickers used a corn head design like the combines that have the atar roll and stripper bar method, which cuts shelling and ear drops to almost nothing. I don"t know how the earlier JD pickers compare to the earlier NI pickers as far as husking goes, but the 327 12-roll bed on the late NI superpickers did a much better job then the husking beds that Deere used on the 300A. I always said the ultimate 2-row picker would be a JD 243 or 244 corn head mated to a New Idea 327 husking bed.

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wade

10-19-2004 22:01:41




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 Re: John Deere Corn Pickers in reply to New, 10-19-2004 21:12:07  
Hi i have a one row JD picker... i thought mine said 300 on it but i could be misstaken. I've used it on a couple of acres every year. (you know to keep the rust off) use to use it alot years ago. and my grand father had a two row new idea, I always tinker with everything so i don't know if i had it adjusted that good. but my JD (300) one row i thought picked cleaner. i welded a little on the snaping rolls to build them up, just on the raised parts. BUT THE PART I NOTICED. was the new idea left the corn clean i mean it did ex. on the husking. were as the JD did not!!!! about every 1 or 2 dozen ears the JD would have an ear with some of the husk on, not the whole thing but a part of it. makes it look bad when you have some that did'nt have any at all. i don't know if i needed new husking rolls but they look good. could be that the rubber is getting hard??? but don't know if you can get them. or get them recoverd i hope someone else is reading this maybe they can tell me if this is the case, and maybe were and how new or recd. rolls cost. but it always husked that way. and was always told thats the way they are and to get a new idea. there husking bed is the best. But i stand by the JD picking cleaner, i mean when i'm done you will not even see a small ear on the ground. and before anyone says anything it misses the husks on the big ears as well not just the little ones. i thought of that one time and set the snaping rolls bigger and it still missed husks. (new) who ever you are, just to let you know i think they are good machines but you will notice the husks on the corn in the gavity box. if this is the trait of JD wich unfort. i think it is. new idea is also a very good picker but seem to go alot higher in price as well. good luck.

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Leroy

10-21-2004 04:51:04




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 Re: John Deere Corn Pickers in reply to wade, 10-19-2004 22:01:41  
The 300 J D used a 2 or 3 row combine corn head, the 1 row pull type was a no. 18 except for an early 30's version that was before the 200 that was a fourty's version and the 200 would only handle 40" corn rows. That 200 picker would be a verry nice item to be able to take to antique machinery shows. I am 61 and raised in corn picker country and only ever seen 1 of them. I used J D 226 and J D 227 2 row mounted pickers

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wade

10-21-2004 13:54:21




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 Re: John Deere Corn Pickers in reply to Leroy, 10-21-2004 04:51:04  
all I know is mine is a one row picker. on the newer end?? i would say it must be the 200?? i thought it said 300 on it but i will have to look. when i got it, it was in mint cond. and still is but don't think they are worth all that much. i seen my picker go at auction for 300 dollar. and 4 years later the guy that bid against. me on it (he got it).called me as he knew me, and said he was looking to get rid of it and asked me if i was going to a nearby auction. i said i was,and he said there is a New idea 2 row picker there that he wanted and if he got it. he would sell me the JD for what he bought if for. (he put new tire on it). at the auction he told me the only thing he did not like about it was it didn't do a very good job on husking. thats why he wanted the NI. well that day he got the NI at auction for 1200 dollars and i helped him get it home and he helped me hook up the JD. best deal i ever got. like i said it is in mint shape. as far as the other guy he has gotten to other pickers since then. i asked him one time if he was sorry he sold it to me, and he said NO to my surpise, he said i know you needed it at the time. and i was unhappy with it, he also said "you have it really dialed in better than i ever did, but still don't like all the husks" Dailed in as it picks really clean. so i guess everyone is happy. but i've noticed at auctions, the JD don't bring much money. but the new ideas sure do.

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Leroy

10-21-2004 19:06:11




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 Re: John Deere Corn Pickers in reply to wade, 10-21-2004 13:54:21  
The only 1 row picker J D made with 2 tires since pre world war II is the No. 18, they made a fully mounted 1 row that is a 127 and the semi mounted 1 row (1 wheel) 100-101 picker. The 300 did not have a 1 row head made for it, it was two wide for that, the smallest head that could be mounted was a 2 row 40" head with 3 row 30" next and also could use a 3 row 40", not shure about 4 row 30" and the 200 was only a 2 row 40" picker as when that was made they never thought about planting corn in anything less than 36" rows and the 4 row planter would not adjust to anything less than 36". For it to be anything other than an 18 on a 1 row with 2 wheels it would have to be a 21 made in the thirtys and would be a total antique, the 200 is also a total antique with no parts avaible

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Tim(nj)

10-21-2004 20:05:15




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 Re: John Deere Corn Pickers in reply to Leroy, 10-21-2004 19:06:11  
Leroy, there was the 120 corn snapper in the early "60s that semi-mounted, but had no husking bed. There also was a 243 corn head for two 30" rows that only fit the 300A picker and the PT forage harvesters (for high-moisture ear-only silage). 343 or 344 head was the biggest you could put on a 300.



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Leroy

10-22-2004 06:17:11




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 Re: John Deere Corn Pickers in reply to Tim(nj), 10-21-2004 20:05:15  
Not familar with the forage harvestor heads and is the 343 a 3 = 30" and the 344 a 3 - 40"? New that there was not a 1 row head for them.



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