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Questions about herbicides for hayfields

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Shovelman

10-18-2004 08:35:10




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I have picked up several hayfields and am in the process of improving them. We have taken soil samples and we are applying lime and fertilizer according to the analysis.

One field in particular is loaded with bedstraw and plantain. A friend has recommended spraying it with Crossbow. I have done a little reading on it, and Dow recommends that it not be used on forage that is to be cut and sold for commercial purposes.

I plan to sell the hay off that lot. Am I opening myself up to possible problems and liability? My neighbors use Crossbow and they sell the hay off their treated lots.

Is Dow's recommendation just legalistic boilplate, or is there a more tangible reason for this claim? Should I be using a different product?

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Scott Goff

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Shovelman

10-21-2004 18:03:49




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 Re: Questions about herbicides for hayfields in reply to Shovelman, 10-18-2004 08:35:10  

Thanks fellows, appreciate the help!

Scott Goff



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Joe in Houston

10-18-2004 14:14:00




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 Re: Questions about herbicides for hayfields in reply to Shovelman, 10-18-2004 08:35:10  
I am living in East Texas and there are about a bazillion hay fields here. The most common product I have heard of is called Graze-on. It is a spray that you have to have a license to buy. You mix like a gallon with 300 gallons of water and the animals can graze the pasture after 24 Hrs. I know a lot of people that leave their horses / cattle grazing in the pasture while they spray (but not me). I have never used the stuff myself but people say it does a great job. Worth checking into. Happy spraying. Joe

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Jerry/MT

10-18-2004 13:53:44




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 Re: Questions about herbicides for hayfields in reply to Shovelman, 10-18-2004 08:35:10  
For the weeds you are trying to deal with 2,4-D will do the trick. If memory serves me correctly, Crossbow is formulated for brushy and woody type vegetation. Remember to follow the label instructions. If you have any legumes in the fields, your going to kill them out with just about any broadleaf killer you use.



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kyhayman

10-18-2004 12:29:26




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 Re: Questions about herbicides for hayfields in reply to Shovelman, 10-18-2004 08:35:10  
The label contains the minimum time between spraying and harvesting. Crossbow, because of the risidual action of the Garlon fraction has a fairly long interval (1 year). 2,4-D which is the other fraction has a fairly short harvest interval (7 to 90 days depending on rate and product). I use 2,4-D at least every other year on my grass hay fields that do not contain legumes.



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Jerry/MT

10-18-2004 13:57:04




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 Re: Questions about herbicides for hayfields in reply to kyhayman, 10-18-2004 12:29:26  
I see by the postings that you are back to working on a few problems with your tractor so I'm presuming you're making a quick recovery from your ATV accident injuries. Glad to see that you're OK.



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kyhayman

10-18-2004 15:33:51




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 Re: Questions about herbicides for hayfields in reply to Jerry/MT, 10-18-2004 13:57:04  
I'm really on the mend, I think. Thanks!

Still cant sleep on my right side and EVERYTHING is awkward to do (still 'supposed' to use a sling). Got to get the tractors all done before the bone cutter goes to work (I am cheating and have a couple of day laborers working for me to do all the lifting and wrestling of the tractor parts so I mostly just supervise). They want to rework the shoulder, not real sure about that. I used to play baseball and have had it operated on once already (it was my pitching arm), lost my fastball when they did it the last time.

Trying to balance repairs, shoulder surgery, and winter feeding. Need to have any medical stuff done before the new health plan at work kicks in, have to be recovered before I need to feed, and got to get the major repairs done. Too much to do, too little time.

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Jerry/MT

10-19-2004 22:51:20




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 Re: Questions about herbicides for hayfields in reply to kyhayman, 10-18-2004 15:33:51  
Glad to hear things are on the mend. That shoulder surgery usually take awhile to heal up and they make your arm stay in an awkward position til it heals so you can hardly do anything. You might just have to hire the feeding out til you heal up. Good Luck to you. And be careful out there, ya' hear!



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Jerry/MT

10-19-2004 22:49:54




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 Re: Questions about herbicides for hayfields in reply to kyhayman, 10-18-2004 15:33:51  
Glad to hear things are on the mend. That shoulder surgery usually take awhile to heal up and they make your arm stay in an awkward position til it heals so you can hardly do anything. You might just have to hire the feeding out til you heal up. Good Luck to you. And be careful out there, ya' hear!



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sammy the RED

10-18-2004 09:48:06




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 Re: Questions about herbicides for hayfields in reply to Shovelman, 10-18-2004 08:35:10  
It is a violation of Federal Law to use a product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.

Your neighbor is looking for trouble.



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