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336 Knotter problems

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Linda(PA)

10-03-2004 15:55:56




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I have a JD 336, and I have had more missed bales than good ones this year.

The baler has been at the dealer's shop for repairs more than it has been on the farm.

I keep it inside and grease it well, but I can't get it to tie a good knot. Every time someone looks at it and adjusts it, one problem seems to go away and get replaced by another one.

Right now it doesn't finish knots sometimes, and otehr times it ends up with 3 or 4 busted bales on one side with several strings coming out of the knotter.

Any suggestions?

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Randy Rymel

10-04-2004 03:59:34




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 Re: 336 Knotter problems in reply to Linda(PA), 10-03-2004 15:55:56  
The twine should be what is called "7200". That means there are 7,200 feet of twine per ball. The twine that is made for round balers won't work in a square baler. Even though most stores have twine for square balers, it will have 9,000 feet ber ball. This a a little bit smaller (diameter) twine. If you use the correct twine it will save a lot of problems. It may be hard to find. Hope this helps.

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Linda(PA)

10-04-2004 13:55:23




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 Re: 336 Knotter problems in reply to Randy Rymel, 10-04-2004 03:59:34  
Thanks for the suggestion, the store I get the 9000 from also has 7200 on hand. I"ll have to get a bale and try it out.



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Tim(nj)

10-04-2004 07:10:12




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 Re: 336 Knotter problems in reply to Randy Rymel, 10-04-2004 03:59:34  
I ran 9000 twine for years in my 336, both plastic and sisal, with no problems. If your 336 can only tie reliably with 7200, something isn"t right with your knotter.



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kyhayman

10-03-2004 18:20:06




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 Re: 336 Knotter problems in reply to Linda(PA), 10-03-2004 15:55:56  
New style or origional wiper arms? What kind of twine? When my dad bought the 336 I now have (new) the dealer told him most tying problems were twince problems. Sure enough, every time I switch from Southern States 10000 I have problems. Really like plastic but it wont make a decent knot. This year had a tucker finger hitting the needle and bending the tucker finger drive arm. All thats to say, more details please, what are the measurements when taking it through the tying cyle manually?

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Jerry D in NC

10-03-2004 17:27:28




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 Re: 336 Knotter problems in reply to Linda(PA), 10-03-2004 15:55:56  
Linda,

We need a better description of the failing knots. Are the strings hanging on the billhook or are there any knots in the strings. A picture is worth a fortune in this case.



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Oliver farmer

10-03-2004 16:03:34




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 Re: 336 Knotter problems in reply to Linda(PA), 10-03-2004 15:55:56  
A John Deere dealer should be able to make this baler tie like new. I have a New Holland, and the knotters are kind of similar. Knotters need to be clean, enough trash built up around them will keep them from tying. One other trick is to only grease it a little bit, not even a full pump sometimes. Only grease the knotter until you see the first trace of grease coming out. Its tough to say without seeing the baler, but if it misses a bale, and the string is left hanging from the knotter, I would check the knife arm. The knife should be sharp, and on New Hollands the small follower wheel at the end of the knife arm is replaceable. When they get worn, the knife arm doesnt travel properly. Without seeing it though, it is really hard to say.

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