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Is there a way to ID hay bales?

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Rauville

10-01-2004 18:42:42




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Hi Fellas;
We have an ongoing problem with missing big round bales from our hayland which is about 25 miles from home. Every year before we get them all hauled home, there is a relative small percentage that just vanish. I've always suspected a local livestock trader in the neighborhood...but never have had any direct proof to point to.
My question being; is there any way to mark or ID bales, in order to establish ownership? Maybe I'm just trying to remember something that isn't available...but it seems that a few years ago, I read about "paper ID confetti" that could be baled into the hay. Ever hear of such a thing, or any sugestions that would prove ownership of a bale?

PS: We got another 2" of rain this morning....makes about 8" in the last couple weeks. It's really helping the subsoil mositure.

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Gerald J.

10-02-2004 08:13:03




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 Re: Is there a way to ID hay bales? in reply to Rauville, 10-01-2004 18:42:42  
In Iowa, Farm bureau sells confetti for identifying grain. Ought to work for baled hay too.

Gerald J.



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Zane(WA)

10-01-2004 21:59:53




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 Re: Is there a way to ID hay bales? in reply to Rauville, 10-01-2004 18:42:42  
Need to make the bales noticable, so mix up some food grade dye and spray your bales,won't hurt any animals. Write your phone number on some of the ends. Throw the SOB and his helpers in jail and make sure the papers hear of it.



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Brad Payne

10-01-2004 21:38:02




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 Re: Is there a way to ID hay bales? in reply to Rauville, 10-01-2004 18:42:42  
Don't know where you are from but I have bought different colored twine here in the North West. I found it easier to keep track of the production in different fields.

Brad



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Bob

10-01-2004 20:53:31




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 Re: Is there a way to ID hay bales? in reply to Rauville, 10-01-2004 18:42:42  
At one point, out here on the prairie, there was grain stolen from time to time from remote grain bins, and sometimes farmers used "confetti" to mark the stored grain.

I haven't heard of it around here for years, but a Google search for "stored grain confetti" turn up quite a number of links, one of which follows.

Perhaps something like this would work for hay, or maybe someone has something like this specifically for hay.

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Leland

10-01-2004 20:01:20




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 Re: Is there a way to ID hay bales? in reply to Rauville, 10-01-2004 18:42:42  
Have you ever looked at tire tracks as good as finger prints or buy an infra red camera from a place like cabelas there cheap and hunter use them all time



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Leland

10-01-2004 20:01:10




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 Re: Is there a way to ID hay bales? in reply to Rauville, 10-01-2004 18:42:42  
Have you ever looked at tire tracks as good as finger prints or buy an infra red camera from a place like cabelas there cheap and hunter use them all time



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Tim(nj)

10-01-2004 19:54:01




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 Re: Is there a way to ID hay bales? in reply to Rauville, 10-01-2004 18:42:42  
There was a older farmer here that had problems with a customer buying hay from him (small squares) and claiming that it was bad and wanting him to haul the moldy stuff away and replace with good. Turns out they were buying $1 hay from somebody else and trying to get good $3 hay from this guy by faking a claim and trading the junk for good. Anyway, what he did to identify his hay, which was baled with 7200 sisal twine, was to put green and red dye marks on the twine balls. About every 3rd bale had a mark on it. Since he was able to positively identify his hay, he caught the crooked customer.

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paul

10-02-2004 08:15:31




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 Re: Is there a way to ID hay bales? in reply to Tim(nj), 10-01-2004 19:54:01  
For small squares, there is an add-on spike on the plunger, this makes a small round hole through the center of each bale - supposed to help dry out or some such. One fellow was using it, he wasn't sure it helped the hay much, but he found several, not just one, cases of people trying to return bad hay to him - without the center holes in the bales. He liked the punch just for that...

--->Paul

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Jim@concordfarms

10-02-2004 07:09:11




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 Re: Is there a way to ID hay bales? in reply to Tim(nj), 10-01-2004 19:54:01  
Tim, that's a great idea. I've had this problem with stolen hay too, but could never figure out what to do. Now I'll just spray a couple of paint stripes on the twine ball before I put it in the baler. Thanks. Jim.



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RayP(MI)

10-02-2004 17:01:45




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 Re: Is there a way to ID hay bales? in reply to Jim@concordfarms, 10-02-2004 07:09:11  
Tim, Jim, that's exactly the suggestion I was going to make - just lightly spray paint the end of your twine ball(s). Will leave a stripe of color every so often on the twine, as it rolls out on the bale. Easy to identify!



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