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COWMANSAM

09-30-2004 20:13:47




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Were the Hesston stackhands made to cut the forage or did they pick up a windrow?




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tim[in]

10-02-2004 07:09:26




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 Re: stackhand in reply to COWMANSAM, 09-30-2004 20:13:47  
stackhands had a flail attatchment for harvesting corn stalks. it was not meant to be used for harvesting standing hay but i imagine you could try that.could be an interesting experiment. but a neighbor had one to put up corn stalks after tha combine had been through.



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RJ-AZ

10-01-2004 20:51:48




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 Re: stackhand in reply to COWMANSAM, 09-30-2004 20:13:47  
Hesston Stackhands do not grind the hay. They lift the hay from a windrow and blow it up a curved chute into the compression chamber. There are controls to allow the operator to weave the hay front to back in order to form a uniform stack. You drive down the windrow until the chamber is full and then stop and compress the hay and then continue until a full stack is formed. I liked to compress three times and sometimes four. The machine can be used to pickup straw and corn stover as well. We used a 30 and 30A for many years. It takes a lot of practice to make a stack that will shed rain and not fall apart when moving them.

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farmermatt

10-01-2004 05:28:09




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 Re: stackhand in reply to COWMANSAM, 09-30-2004 20:13:47  
Im a young 25 yrs old and have never used a stackhand but my dad does have one. Im sure someone will correct me if im wrong but I know he has used it in the past to stack cornstalks. It does work like a flail chopper and will cut the stalks off and blow them in. The forage does not have to be windrowed. Like i said, someone correct me if im wrong. By the way nobody wants a little hesston 10A in great shape????Matt

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hanbert

10-01-2004 14:58:59




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 Re: stackhand in reply to farmermatt, 10-01-2004 05:28:09  
I know that the 10A units are popular with farmers in the upper midwest, for baling corn stalks, There is however no sickle or cutting bar on the 10A, or any other Stacker that I know of to cut anything. These units are simply put, giant compression balers, they can and will with very little fuss, collect the chaff from a corn field, bale up grass or alfalfa. For feeding large herds it has to be the most efficient way to go. My understanding from a dairy farmer in Illinois, is you can actually start baling earlier in the day because the process actually helps dry the hay, as it shoots up the "spout", into the chamber. And yes they come in all sizes from 10A, = 1ton, 30A,= 3tons, and 60A, = 6 tons. There are ancillary support implements known as stackmovers, and stackfeeders. The stackfeeder is a mover, essentially a flat bed hydraulic tilt trailer with a chaindrive system, with addition of a sickle type slicer, which enables you to cut the stack and feed portions of a stack. John Deere also made stackers and the accompanying implements, well thought of by those who use them.

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Allan in NE

10-01-2004 18:12:57




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 Re: stackhand in reply to hanbert, 10-01-2004 14:58:59  
Hanbert,

There ya go; I had my model numbers basackwards.

Don't those stackers tho, end up with a finished product akin to that of 'ground hay' due to the effects of that beater (Flail)?

Thanks,

Allan



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Hanbert

10-01-2004 22:17:03




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 Re: stackhand in reply to Allan in NE, 10-01-2004 18:12:57  
I don't think they are hard on the crop. Used a lot on western alfalfa, where leaf damage would discourage the user if it occured. i have heard alfalfa users state that alfalfa makes the best stack, as far as weather protection. I would use them here in Missouri, but I would have to educate a whole group of customers who are resistent to change. they all love those nasty, half rotten round bales, with their soggy net wrap and loose twine all over the place, tangled on something. The round bale salesmen did a hell of job. Buy a $16,000.00 baler so you can make a $20.00 bale of hay, if you can sell it for that! Pete

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Allan in NE

10-01-2004 08:57:56




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 Re: stackhand in reply to farmermatt, 10-01-2004 05:28:09  
Hi Matt,

Yeah, I sure agree with you on how they work, but if a guy is stackin' hay, you'd sure want it cured out in a windrow, wouldn't ya?

I thought the 10A was the big one? Is there a bigger one than that?

Allan



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farmermatt

10-02-2004 05:15:15




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 Re: stackhand in reply to Allan in NE, 10-01-2004 08:57:56  
No the 10 is the tiny one. Yes, you would want what ever youre stacking to be cured but the corn stalks we ran were dry to begin with.



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Allan in NE

10-01-2004 02:17:46




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 Re: stackhand in reply to COWMANSAM, 09-30-2004 20:13:47  
Mornin' Sam,

Like Han said, they pull the crop from a windrow and, for lack of another word, "blow" it up the chute and into the stacker.

Lots of guys use 'em around here and seem to really like the machines.

Allan



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Hanbert

09-30-2004 20:51:40




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 Re: stackhand in reply to COWMANSAM, 09-30-2004 20:13:47  
Have spent some time researching the pros and cons of Stackhands. They are like giant 3 and 6 ton stringless balers. They use compression to form a bale loaf, with varying degrees of success as far as weather protection. Weather worthiness depends on type of crop, and humidity/rainfall amounts etc. So this is the wordy answer to your question, they just bale, do not cut, forage harvestors cut.



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