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Using a grain drill

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Ron (Tex)

09-29-2004 04:23:09




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I need to plant some small grain this fall on 10 acres of recently cleared land, very sandy. Had heard that I need to get a grain drill. Being that I have never owned/used one can anyone give me pointers as to what to look for and how to use (assuming that I won't get an owner's manual with the used piece of equipment). Thanks




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Farmall

10-02-2004 19:36:49




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 Re: Using a grain drill in reply to Ron (Tex), 09-29-2004 04:23:09  

I have a 1924 IHC 14 shoe drill that I boought when I was 21 or so for $2.00 I need to put new wood on it again. It has a wood box, Anyway, when I start out in a field with it, I usually go around the field 2 or 3 times, then go back and forth from one end working towards the other. I go around the outside edges of the field so that when I turn, if I get careless, there wont be any gaps showing. You will have to watch your wheels so that they stay in the outside track you made on your last round. After awhile youll get a feel for the distance you have to stay away so that you dont have to constantly be looking at your wheels to see if the one is in the outside track of your last round. DONT RUN OUT OF SEED> you wont know where you ran out at and thatll drive ya nuts. Dont leave your discs up when finished, park the drill wherever, and then let the discs down. Clean out the box so that mice ect cant get into it and eat out the box. When finished, take the spouts off and let the, fall down into the cast hole by the discs and clean outaround the hole. Dont clean out where its going to be parked. Clean it out somewhere else and then go park it. When turning, DONT turn so short that you cause the inside wheel to back up. This cvan cause diret to plug your spouts, cause you to break the disc assembly, and cause you to back over the 1or second drag chain causing you to rip them off the holding ring, or breaking the ring altogether. Turn so that the inside wheel dosent move at all, or VERY LITTLE forward. Good luck

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txblu

09-29-2004 09:24:03




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 Re: Using a grain drill in reply to Ron (Tex), 09-29-2004 04:23:09  
Iffin you want to drill:

A drill is a planter. It has a hopper, seed dispenser, chute to get the seed to the soil openers, soil openers, and soil smoothers.

It is a drag implement that is ground driven. No PTO, no hydraulics. Some come with fertilizer dispensers.

1.The hopper is a box for inputting the seed. If you're lucky, there will still be instructions inside as to planting rate and settings for the seed of choice. Problems are usually rust. There is a little stirrer in there to keep the seed from packing that may or may not be intact. I don't need it for wheat, oats, and sorghum hay.

2. The seed dispenser is a gear sort of thing that you can increase or decrease the area (of) allowing for variations in seed size and planting rates. It is on the bottom of the hopper and is chain driven from the wheels. The seeds load up in it's teeth, and it rolls out the desired density.

3. Chute is nothing more than a flexible tube that insures that the seed falling from the dispenser falls where you want it....behind the soil opener(s).

4. Soil openers are merely one or 2 discs which make a small furrow in the soil for the seed. These are spring mounted with a variable tensioner for different depths on different soils.

5. Smoother is merely a chain with a couple of large rings on it that bounce around behind where the seed dropped to slap a little dirt over the seed.
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Purchase price varies as does quality. Mines a 12 footer and paid $600 for it.

I like the Deere as it has a galvanized hopper and it doesn't rust.

All the ground opener wheels need to be present and turn freely.

The chutes need to be intact and all there.

There is a trip mechanism that raises the planters for transport which should be operable.

Maintenance:

Keep dry and clean up after planting. No seed left in hopper or dispenser. keep cutters and other moving parts greased or oiled (chains). It will sit outside if necessary but under a shed is always better.

Some in my area use the fertilizer spreader that their fertilizer comes in, to spread their seed, but it is haphazard and you have no real control on quality of stand. You can tell the ones that use it by the quality (lack thereof) of their stand.

HTH

Mark

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joe e-tx

09-29-2004 09:06:02




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 Re: Using a grain drill in reply to Ron (Tex), 09-29-2004 04:23:09  
ron what have you decided to plant.ou the other board you were talking about rye grass,which can be spread and dragged over to cover.a grain (oats,elbon rye,wheat)needs to be planted deeper for roots and not be washed away .your wanting to slow or stop erosion.also when planting hay pasture next april or may field would be easer to work with.also would not have rye grass to deal with every spring at first cutting. were you in tx if close i could help you running a grain drill
joe

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RickL

09-29-2004 06:01:43




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 Re: Using a grain drill in reply to Ron (Tex), 09-29-2004 04:23:09  
You don't have to have a drill,you could simply broadcast it with a small spreader and harrow it in. Drilling just normally gives you a more even stand. Depending on your cleared land if have many sticks yet it would be awful hard on drill anyway. I would broadcast first time and use a old drag harrow so you wouldn't damage much with the sticks laying yet. Good luck



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Leland

09-30-2004 17:59:11




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 Re: Using a grain drill in reply to RickL, 09-29-2004 06:01:43  
They have planted wheat like that for years around here just mix seed and fertlizer together and they get real good stands saves a trip then a light disking your done quick easy and you don't have to spend money on drill . fert company loans us that to.



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RickL

09-29-2004 06:01:13




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 Re: Using a grain drill in reply to Ron (Tex), 09-29-2004 04:23:09  
You don't have to have a drill,you could simply broadcast it with a small spreader and harrow it in. Drilling just normally gives you a more even stand. Depending on your cleared land if have many sticks yet it would be awful hard on drill anyway. I would broadcast first time and use a old drag harrow so you wouldn't damage much with the sticks laying yet. Good luck



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RickL

09-29-2004 06:01:01




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 Re: Using a grain drill in reply to Ron (Tex), 09-29-2004 04:23:09  
You don't have to have a drill,you could simply broadcast it with a small spreader and harrow it in. Drilling just normally gives you a more even stand. Depending on your cleared land if have many sticks yet it would be awful hard on drill anyway. I would broadcast first time and use a old drag harrow so you wouldn't damage much with the sticks laying yet. Good luck



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