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Jim Calhoun

09-22-2004 10:51:36




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What kind of cultivaters work well for soybeans?

I am going to plant only 10 acres and have an old John Deere corn cultivater, one that I would describe as a "Go Dig".

Will this cultivater work for soybeans? If not, any suggestions?




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JMS/MN

09-23-2004 11:54:48




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 Re: Cultivater Question in reply to Jim Calhoun, 09-22-2004 10:51:36  
I've never seen any row-crop cultivator that doesn't work for either crop---stiff shank, flex shank, Danish tooth, etc. Danish is more popular in the last twenty yers, but they all work ok. For small plants you need shields, either old style hoods/side shields, or rolling shields. They all work.



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paul

09-24-2004 17:00:47




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 Re: Cultivater Question in reply to JMS/MN, 09-23-2004 11:54:48  
Yup, all the same machine here in Minnesota.

You can have different types of shovels on the ones right next to the plant row - mostly they are 1/2 shovels & don't burry much. Sometimes they use hilling shovels, those do throw a ridge. Or even a disk blade to cut dirt away from the row. Dad had used all three at different times...

With young plants, you do need the sheilding. Rolling is better, others will work.

Best to go through every week after crop emerges, generally 3 times around 'here' without chemicals. If you can see weeds from a distance, you waited _way_ too long & lost the battle already.

--->Paul

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riverbend

09-24-2004 20:59:39




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 Re: Cultivater Question in reply to paul, 09-24-2004 17:00:47  
My cultivator (IH) works better in the tiny stuff without shields. It is slow going, but if a piece of trash catches on the shield, it will bury a lot of plants, especially if you don't happen to be looking at that side.

Sheilds also prevent you from rolling the dirt into the row to bury the weeds between the plants. You are only going to cultivate the beans for the first six weeks at most, long before they start to set pods. If you can, go over them with a tine weeder or light harrow 2-3 days after you plant, definitely before the beans sprout. If you get it right you will kill a lot of the little foxtail and not hurt the beans.

I'm not sure I believe the stuff about losing half the crop on cultivated beans. If you don't keep the beans ahead of the weeds, you aren't going to harvest many beans in any case.

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RickL

09-23-2004 06:44:28




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 Re: Cultivater Question in reply to Jim Calhoun, 09-22-2004 10:51:36  
Jim; What model do you have then I can tell you if you can use or not and how many rows are you wanting to cultivate at a time. I have a front mount model 40 JD 4 row wide rows and a very nice 6row 30 inch 3pt unit both cheap but very good usable units. Both have fenders



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Farmall30

09-22-2004 19:15:10




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 Re: Cultivater Question in reply to Jim Calhoun, 09-22-2004 10:51:36  

The frame will work, but the shovels wont. They, if they are corn shovels, they are made to hill up dirt around the corn plants each time there used. you dont want to hill up dirt around bwean plants. It covers the beans and makes for losses that way and dirty combining. When I was a kid I got dad to try beans. they made good and he cultivated them good. When the man combined them, he said ied bet he lost 1/2 the crop cause the beans was hilled up and buried in the dirt. Dad never grew beans again

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jhill

09-22-2004 18:59:45




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 Re: Cultivater Question in reply to Jim Calhoun, 09-22-2004 10:51:36  
Yes it will work. The best cultivators these days are the s tine type. They have a nice wiggling action that really cleans out weeds.



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