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How to make corners with a sickle mower

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Nail

09-20-2004 20:14:42




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How is the easiest way to make corners with a sickle mower. We always raise the sickle and back up and let it down as soon as it gets to the standing hay. How can it be done without raising it up and without choking up. Now we run the disc mowers and can make a good round corner but they don't have the problem of choking up. Thanks




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tlak

09-22-2004 15:53:26




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 Re: How to make corners with a sickle mower in reply to Nail, 09-20-2004 20:14:42  
I tried the counter clockwise first pass then all the following clock wise. Seems like a sickle bar just ain't made to turn corners without leaving some or clogging. If your mowing from the outside in the last little strip is never a blade width so your mower wants to clog.
I started mowing a center strip in the field and then mowing away from it always driving on mowed grass with a turn around at each end. I mow the turn arounds in passing then lift the blade for the next pass. This works in my fields where I have to mow small patches here and there.

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tlak

09-22-2004 15:53:04




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 Re: How to make corners with a sickle mower in reply to Nail, 09-20-2004 20:14:42  
I tried the counter clockwise first pass then all the following clock wise. Seems like a sickle bar just ain't made to turn corners without leaving some or clogging. If your mowing from the outside in the last little strip is never a blade width so your mower wants to clog.
I started mowing a center strip in the field and then mowing away from it always driving on mowed grass with a turn around at each end. I mow the turn arounds in passing then lift the blade for the next pass. This works in my fields where I have to mow small patches here and there.

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tlak

09-22-2004 15:44:51




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 Re: How to make corners with a sickle mower in reply to Nail, 09-20-2004 20:14:42  
I tried the counter clockwise first pass then all the following clock wise. Seems like a sickle bar just ain't made to turn corners without leaving some or clogging. If your mowing from the outside in the last little strip is never a blade width so your mower wants to clog.
I started mowing a center strip in the field and then mowing away from it always driving on mowed grass with a turn around at each end. I mow the turn arounds in passing then lift the blade for the next pass. This works in my fields where I have to mow small patches here and there.

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tlak

09-22-2004 15:42:37




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 Re: How to make corners with a sickle mower in reply to Nail, 09-20-2004 20:14:42  
I tried the counter clockwise first pass then all the following clock wise. Seems like a sickle bar just ain't made to turn corners without leaving some or clogging. If your mowing from the outside in the last little strip is never a blade width so your mower wants to clog.
I started mowing a center strip in the field and then mowing away from it always driving on mowed grass with a turn around at each end. I mow the turn arounds in passing then lift the blade for the next pass. This works in my fields where I have to mow small patches here and there.

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Jim.UT

09-22-2004 12:37:59




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 Re: How to make corners with a sickle mower in reply to Nail, 09-20-2004 20:14:42  
I use a mounted $9 JD mower on a Ford 850 (wide front). No one taught me, I had to figure it out myself. I use the right brake a lot.

About the time the front wheel clears the uncut hay I start turning the steering wheel. When the rear wheel is even with the line of hay, I stand on the right brake and swing the whole rig 90 degrees to the right. That swings the cutter bar out away from the standing hay and picks up the uncut portion that was left between cutter bar and the tractor rear tire when I started the turn.

It makes sense it you could watch me do it. I don't know that I've described it clearly enough to figure out what I mean. As said by others, practice practice practice and you'll see what works and what doesn't.

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Allan in NE

09-22-2004 15:47:34




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 Re: How to make corners with a sickle mower in reply to Jim.UT, 09-22-2004 12:37:59  
Jim,

You explained it perfectly.

You can always tell when you've got the process down pat:

The bar is usually raised two times, once at lunch and once when you come in for the night.

Allan



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Farmall30

09-21-2004 19:37:36




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 Re: How to make corners with a sickle mower in reply to Nail, 09-20-2004 20:14:42  

My dad never taught me nothing, other than as you stated about straight line plowing, and turning out to the right and back in to the furrows at the corners, which I dont do now anymore as it causes washing. I had to learn how to plant, drill, and mow and rake on my own as my dad had no use for me as a kid and used my younger brother and left me at the house for mom to use. When I mow, with a simi mounted #27 IHC sickle mower 7ft, I drive past the corner to where my bodys even with the line of the hay next to be cut, then I turn, somwhat, but not to sharply. You dont want the end shoe of the mower backing up as this can be hard on the sickle bar if it digs in. A wheel fixed on the outer shoe would correct this. With a turn like this, you will leave a bit of grass every time. I usually do this X amount of times, then come out of the hay, raise the bar, drive to where I can pick uop the tufts of hay ive left standing lower the bar and cut them going right into the next line of hay. I do that at each corner, then return to making 45@ turns with the bar down. I dont like hearing the mower chatter ever time I come to a corner, and youll hear it much more oftener on a 3 acre field than on a 30 acre field, and so it gets a bit annoying. I dont mow enough hay to get used to it, and it always sounds like it is threatening to go to heck when I lift it on the corners. I could throw it out of gear, and should, but, on a short turn, with putting it back in gear before lowering it. oits harddly worth the effort, and does take time

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Stan in Mo.

09-21-2004 09:25:22




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 Re: How to make corners with a sickle mower in reply to Nail, 09-20-2004 20:14:42  
Lots of practice works. I had a good teacher, My dad taught me to mow on a Massey Harris 30 with a # 6 mounted mower, narrow front and no power steering. When we went to trail type mowers and wide fronts and 9' bars it was another learning experience. Dad made sure that there was no hay left standing at the corners or anywhere in the field. Paying attention, good brakes and sharp sickle go along ways.

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Allan in NE

09-21-2004 09:38:17




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 Re: How to make corners with a sickle mower in reply to Stan in Mo., 09-21-2004 09:25:22  
Your dad and mine must have been neighbors.

No hay left standing, no cultivator blight, no dead space between fields after planting and there better not be any "holes" left after the plowing.

Further, if you are making fence or setting a wind-break, it had better be in a straight line.

Never leave a load hanging on a hydraulic system and brother, hang on to your hat if you ever ran a diesel out of fuel.

Just simple stuff, :>)

Allan

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E. Ray

09-21-2004 14:09:38




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 Re: How to make corners with a sickle mower in reply to Allan in NE, 09-21-2004 09:38:17  
Never had an opportunity to mow hay but, have spent a lot of hours breaking ground for row crops. Dad always say the quickest way across the field was a straight path and the plough furrows had better not be crooked when Dad came to check on me..... ..... ..... .E. Ray



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John (MO)

09-21-2004 08:27:01




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 Re: How to make corners with a sickle mower in reply to Nail, 09-20-2004 20:14:42  
Sometimes a 270 degree turn to the left works best.



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Dave H (MI)

09-21-2004 06:29:44




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 A link to help you. in reply to Nail, 09-20-2004 20:14:42  
This describes it pretty well...

http://www.retiredtractors.com/No5/Mow1.html



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Allan in NE

09-21-2004 06:35:03




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 Re: A link to help you. in reply to Dave H (MI), 09-21-2004 06:29:44  
third party image

Hi Dave,

Yes, this young feller has a nice site.

But, have you noticed that he might as well chop off a foot of that cutter bar? He isn't using it anyway. :>)

Allan



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Allan in NE

09-21-2004 06:08:45




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 Re: How to make corners with a sickle mower in reply to Nail, 09-20-2004 20:14:42  
Nail,

A cutter bar in good shape, a single front end, a good right brake and lots and lots of practice. :>)

Allan



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Loren-MN

09-20-2004 22:02:46




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 Re: How to make corners with a sickle mower in reply to Nail, 09-20-2004 20:14:42  
Like old said, it depends alot on the tractor and the type of sickle mower. 3-point, semi-mount, or trailer. My experience (although I've used them all) is with the JD #5, behind a B or A. Mow in the direction you are going until you have about a sickle bars width uncut. Start your turn, and I mean start it hard. A spinning knob on the steering wheel and good right break all help. The mower and sickle will swing back, cut the portion you left and make a perfect square corner.
Loren-MN

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old operator

09-21-2004 06:31:19




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 Re: How to make corners with a sickle mower in reply to Loren-MN, 09-20-2004 22:02:46  
some times



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txblu

09-21-2004 05:53:44




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 Re: How to make corners with a sickle mower in reply to Loren-MN, 09-20-2004 22:02:46  
I'll take the right brake as the key ingredient. Gotta make that tractor spin in one spot to get the proper swing of the cutter and not miss a blade. I think your recommendation of the B and #5 is correct. Having used several makes and combo's, this is the only rig (borrowed from neighbor) that did it as you said, perfectly.

Mark



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old

09-20-2004 21:04:48




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 Re: How to make corners with a sickle mower in reply to Nail, 09-20-2004 20:14:42  
Sort of depends on what type of tractor your on, trikes turn faster and its easy to make good corners on them. The other types I just raise it up and turn a circle back over the hay I just cut.



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