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brent

09-20-2004 11:24:03




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I need to put new tires on my hay wagons before next summer. Currently I'm running 10-15 8ply floatations. I put a 11L-15 8 ply floaters from a forage wagon on the back and it's a low profile tire. So needless to say Its sitting about 4" low in the back corner. What I was wondering is are their any problems with running low profile tires on a hay wagon?




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Bill Perry

09-20-2004 23:05:08




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 Re: wagon tires in reply to brent, 09-20-2004 11:24:03  
Rim size for those wagons. I have a 6 lug 16 inch wheel that I need to find a replacement rim for. The wheel/rim is a solid center with the center having a half of a sphere that encloses the nut, seal,bearing etc. that holds the wheel on the wagon. It is 16 x 6 rim, rib tires/5 with a 7 inch bolt circle. Yes, I said 7 inches, no doubt about this lug circle dimension. The rim guys say no such animal but I have two good versions of the wheel, one salvageable and one that is a maybe. Anyone have knowledge of such a rim. I am currently trying to find a match for the outer rim and then put the center section back in the new outer section. The outer section looks a lot like the basic rim for a Farmall M front tire. When I say outer section I mean the rim part that is riveted to the center section. Any help would be appreciated. I do not believe this wagon was made by one of the recognized tractor manufacturers. I assume the wheel was a common version in 1947 for an auto or truck. Could it be a Dodge wheel?

Bill Perry: Thanks in advance for an information.

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Don-Wi

09-21-2004 20:50:15




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 Re: wagon tires in reply to Bill Perry, 09-20-2004 23:05:08  
We have 2 of those running gears, made by Better Bilt. One of them was jack knived going down a hill about 15 years ago, nver did fix it, although it's still in the plans, some day. we have several gears built by them, and they are excellent gears. 2 w/ the 6 on 7" pattern, then 3, one of each 5 bolt pattern. Another wagon we borrow from a neighbor has the standard 6 on 6" pattern. 2 of the spindles on that gear were replaced w/ other ones he had around, completely different hub and all. That would be ne option for you, if possible try to match up the current spindle dimensions w/ a new 6 on 6" hub w/ dust caps, or cut the old spindles out w/ a torch, thin grinding wheels, and lots and lots of patience. Someone should have a hub that would work though, may take a bit of research, and possibly different size bearings.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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Bill Perry

09-24-2004 08:48:03




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 Re: wagon tires in reply to Don-Wi, 09-21-2004 20:50:15  
Thanks for the response. What else can you tell me about the manufacturer? Where were they located and if still in business. My gear is good, bearings good, spindles etc. It would sure be nice just to find some rims.

Bill



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Don-Wi

09-25-2004 08:12:51




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 Re: wagon tires in reply to Bill Perry, 09-24-2004 08:48:03  
I don't know much about the manufacturer, but there are several of these brand running gears in our area. I have seen ads for better bilt manure tanks, so they may still be in business. Have you tried any bone yards? Rims will be hard to come by no matter how you go about it. Although as I'm typing, some people have cut out the center disk and welded them in new rims. Centering them may be difficult, but one more option for you, if the center disks are still good.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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Bill Perry

09-25-2004 09:33:27




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 Re: wagon tires in reply to Don-Wi, 09-25-2004 08:12:51  
Don

Thanks for the help. I will keep working on the project. I will let you know when I come up with a solution.

Bill



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Loren-MN

09-21-2004 01:16:18




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 Re: wagon tires in reply to Bill Perry, 09-20-2004 23:05:08  
Bill,
My first thought was a Ford wheel, because they had the large lug circle, but as I recall, they were all 5 or 8 lugs. I'm wondering if you don't have wheels from the early versions of the Dodge Power Wagon, first military and then commercial. They also had the large lug circle. I'd check with military surplus. There have been earlier posting about military surplus web sites, but some else is going to have to jump in here.
Loren-MN

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Loren-MN

09-20-2004 22:32:08




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 Re: wagon tires in reply to brent, 09-20-2004 11:24:03  
Low. This goes back a bit, We had several variations of hay wagons. But the one I liked best was I think a JD 963 running gear. Came from the dealer new with 10 or 11" X 14" implement grade wheels, and wide low profile (used) 24 ply airplane tires. For the floor, we used 4 X 8 white oak stringers on the bolsters, and 2 X 6 white oak floor right on top the stringers. A 2 X 4 white oak top and bottom on each side to tie the edge of the floor together. All full dimension lumber. Lasted forever. Never did wear those tires out.

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Leland

09-20-2004 22:28:42




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 Re: wagon tires in reply to brent, 09-20-2004 11:24:03  
We had car tires on ours and still could haul 90-120 bales.



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Leland

09-20-2004 22:28:38




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 Re: wagon tires in reply to brent, 09-20-2004 11:24:03  
We had car tires on ours and still could haul 90-120 bales.



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paul

09-20-2004 11:33:19




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 Re: wagon tires in reply to brent, 09-20-2004 11:24:03  
I try to do what I can to keep a hay wagon foor as low as I can.

--->Paul



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brent

09-20-2004 11:42:37




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 Re: wagon tires in reply to paul, 09-20-2004 11:33:19  
that's what I was thinking. and it makes it easier getting an overload into a low barn....hehe



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