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Baler Balancing, Tires and Jacks!!!!!!

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Bill VA

09-19-2004 19:53:43




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Well I removed the wheels from my parts JD 14T baler today and what a task! The baler is soooo heavy on the bale chamber side. This same side had a flat tire and it was easy enough to get a jack under the axle, but not enough room to get a board under the jack. As a result, I would jack, the baler would go up a bit and the jack would go down into the ground just about as much! No luck! I could never get this side of the baler high enough to get the tire off. Soooo, I then put blocks under the axle on the bale chambe side to the extent I could and moved to right (near the center of the baler) where I could get a board under the jack (to keep it from being pressed into the ground). I jacked-up the pick-up side of the baler and in doing so tilted the baler high enough to block-up the left side a little bit more. I let the baler back down and the left side was now high enough to get the jack under it with a the board. After that I could jack-up the left side, block it, remove the tire and of course the right side was a breeze.

My question is - how do you jack your baler to remove a tire? That JD 14T is REALLY heavy on the bale chamber side and it's awkward to lift!

Also, can you (are you) using tubless tires on these old baler rims? As much of a pain as it is to jack these things up to replace or patch a tube, looks to me like you could save some headaches by using a tubless tire and plugging the tire ON the baler.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Bill

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oleblu

09-20-2004 19:55:39




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 Re: Baler Balancing, Tires and Jacks!!!!!! in reply to Bill VA, 09-19-2004 19:53:43  
The plywood idea is good, only because what you are lifting is not TOO heavy. In my service truck I carry a 3/4" steel plate that is about 20" in diam. I got it from a tank manufacturing plant, it"s the cutout for an inspection hole or something. I welded a "U" bolt to it for a handle. "U" bolt is about 6" long and about 3" between the legs. No one has walked off with it yet as it weighs 75#. True, you are not lifting what I do on a daily basis (loaded semi in the field, 2 ton truck LOADED along the highway with a double blowout on a soft shoulder, etc...) but several farmers have asked me where I got the material so they could make their own. I have even used it as a "portable" welding table a couple of times (try that with your plywood LOL). My 2 cents worth. oleblu

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Chuck in Ks.

09-20-2004 06:58:57




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 Re: Baler Balancing, Tires and Jacks!!!!!! in reply to Bill VA, 09-19-2004 19:53:43  
I run two tires on the bale side, the outside tire is slightly smaller than the inside tire.
Much easier to get a small 2 ton floor jack under along with a couple of short 2X4's or a piece of plywood.
The second tire also helps if I should pull the chamber side into a badger hole. Keeps the bale chamber side from dropping so far into the hole.
Baler tires also have tubes.
My two cents.
Chuck

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willie j

09-20-2004 05:53:36




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 Re: Baler Balancing, Tires and Jacks!!!!!! in reply to Bill VA, 09-19-2004 19:53:43  
Just another approach to the project. I imagine you have a tractor or pickup truck sitting close by. Hitch it up & lock brakes to keep the baler from rolling & falling off the jack while working under it. If not enough room to slide the jack under, drop a plank or two ahead of the wheel & pull the flat tire up onto the plank. Easy way to gain 2,4, or 6 inches of clearance, and things won't move suddenly.
BTW, I drove tour bus many years. Part of the factory supplied emergency equipment is a 4x6x18 "run up block", just for such use.
HTH
Willie J

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RayP(MI)

09-20-2004 04:24:48




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 Re: Baler Balancing, Tires and Jacks!!!!!! in reply to Bill VA, 09-19-2004 19:53:43  
Had a nasty time with an Oliver baler too. Bale chamber side is heavy because it HAS to be!



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Oklahomatractorrebuillder

09-20-2004 04:00:07




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 Re: Baler Balancing, Tires and Jacks!!!!!! in reply to Bill VA, 09-19-2004 19:53:43  
We use the same thing we use to lift anything needing tire work here. Ex oilfield rigup truck with 25 ft poles. Always lifts with very little risk.



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paul

09-19-2004 22:12:28




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 Re: Baler Balancing, Tires and Jacks!!!!!! in reply to Bill VA, 09-19-2004 19:53:43  
A bottle jack under the axle with a plank of wood under the jack. If your jack is too tall, a shovel will get some dirt away for the plank.

I've never had _any_ luck with tubless tires on farm equipment. Yuk.

--->Paul



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JMS/MN

09-19-2004 22:05:17




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 Re: Baler Balancing, Tires and Jacks!!!!!! in reply to Bill VA, 09-19-2004 19:53:43  
If the jack gets pushed into the ground, you need a plank under the jack. If there isn't enough room, either get a shorter jack or take a shovel and dig out underneath the jack to make room for the plank.



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Bob

09-19-2004 20:12:02




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 Re: Baler Balancing, Tires and Jacks!!!!!! in reply to Bill VA, 09-19-2004 19:53:43  
Use a floor jack, while the baler is hooked up to the tractor, which is in park, or the brakes are locked.

If you don't have a concrete slab, throw a sheet of 3/4" plywood down for a solid surface for the jack.

Be carefull... don't put and body parts where anything can fall on them, if something goes wrong!



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ken macfarlane

09-21-2004 07:09:36




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 Re: Baler Balancing, Tires and Jacks!!!!!! in reply to Bob, 09-19-2004 20:12:02  
Had a flat on the MF224 baler this year on the chamber side. Grabbed the 3 ton floor jack slapped her underneath and lifted. No problems, just sank till the frame of the jack touched ground.

Ken



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