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Broadcast vs Drop seeder vs drain grill

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JEMSA

09-15-2004 16:19:41

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I'm working my the old family farm - we've got no more than 20 tillable acres. I've been trying to hit some different hay markets, growing either pure alfalfa or pure timothy.

Up till now we've been broadcast seeding (by hand with an antique spreader - read aches and pains the day after). Is a drill going to improve my chances of a good stand enough to justify the cost. What's the smallest drill alvailable for alf/tim? Or would I be just as well off with a drop seeder to save on my back and not spend a lot?

Thanks,

John

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farmall30

09-19-2004 12:52:29

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Re: Broadcast vs Drop seeder vs drain grill in reply to JEMSA, 09-15-2004 16:19:41

When I was 21 I bought a 1924 IHC drill at auction for 2.oo. Paid $14 for new lumber for the box. 3 yrs ago I replace that lumber with new. Cost $50 and wasnt 1/2 as good as the first. I need to replace it again. This time I will replace the sides with 2 2X4s. It plants, or it planted perfectly thru the first overhaul, but during th second in which my son helped, the last shoe dropped way more than the rest as it was set wrong. I have planted oats, wheat, and haygrazer and alfalfa with it. Never in fields bigger than yours

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jason(ma)

09-16-2004 21:35:41

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Re: Broadcast vs Drop seeder vs drain grill in reply to JEMSA, 09-15-2004 16:19:41

here's my $.02 a drill with a 6" spacing and a small seed box is the way to go. Combind this with a Cultipacker (pulverizer, roller, what ever it's called in your area) and you should get excellent results. OR a Brillion seeder, basicly a culipacker with a seeder on top of it. you can take a look at a place like wengers (go to their web site)to see what these machines are. good luck

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RickL

09-16-2004 07:34:44

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Re: Broadcast vs Drop seeder vs drain grill in reply to JEMSA, 09-15-2004 16:19:41

I have a old Ih unit would sell cheap. needs little work thou. Pic under www.RickSales.com

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RickL

09-16-2004 07:34:35

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Re: Broadcast vs Drop seeder vs drain grill in reply to JEMSA, 09-15-2004 16:19:41

I have a old Ih unit would sell cheap. needs little work thou. Pic under www.RickSales.com

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Joe in IN

09-16-2004 06:56:14

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Re: Broadcast vs Drop seeder vs drain grill in reply to JEMSA, 09-15-2004 16:19:41

Put me on the Drill side. I have 20 acres as well. I bought an old melroe drill for 100 bucks and it seeded my alfalfa/timothy pasture very well. And that was with rotten seed wheels. I have since purchased new seed wheels($200) I guess I'll see how it does now.

Anyway, you will save some money in seed due to a lower seeding rate with drilling vs broadcasting. Might offset cost of an old drill or it might not. Around here $50 - 200 for an old drill. if you are planting good alfalfa at $4 a pound over 20 acres and use 3 less pounds per acre you've saved $240. Might pay for the drill..... .....

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Indydirtfarmer

09-16-2004 04:54:43

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Re: Broadcast vs Drop seeder vs drain grill in reply to JEMSA, 09-15-2004 16:19:41

A drill will do a more accurate job than a broadcast spreader. The only way a broadcast spreader (spinner) will give you complete coverage, is to seed at a much higher rate than actually needed. A drop spreader will do a more accurate job than a spinner also.
As mentioned, most county soil and water conservation district will have a drill (maybe a no-till drill) to rent to county land-owners. (Haybuster, Tye, ect) Unless you plan on seeding quite frequently, I don't see the need in buying a drill unless you can get it at a real bargain. You might try advertizing in a local paper, for a neighboring farmer to "custom seed" your hayfield for you. The idea of having an experienced farmer do the seeding, will give you the benefit of their years of "practice". Typically, a reasonably good John Deere FBB grain drill, with small seed attachment, will sell in the $150 to $400 range. You MIGHT find a junker at a cheaper price, but why buy junk...
I have an International Harvester #6 drop spreader (8') that has been used with great success, to seed wheat, and hay fields. I'm selling it, since I have other options now. If you are interested, contact me at [email protected] Good luck, and happy farming. John

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Jim Calhoun

09-15-2004 22:56:22

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Re: Broadcast vs Drop seeder vs drain grill in reply to JEMSA, 09-15-2004 16:19:41

My 2 cents...
Check farm auctions for used equipment. I bought a real nice broadcast seeder, pull type PTO with 2 spinners for $5.00 and a nice 12 foot grain drill with grass seeder hopper for $25.00.
In my area, this small old stuff can be had for at or just below metal price.

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Leland

09-15-2004 19:05:01

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Re: Broadcast vs Drop seeder vs drain grill in reply to JEMSA, 09-15-2004 16:19:41

Try your local ag office in my area they have them for lease cheap. Fed do have good ideas once in a while.

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Oliver farmer

09-15-2004 18:17:52

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Re: Broadcast vs Drop seeder vs drain grill in reply to JEMSA, 09-15-2004 16:19:41

I like a grain drill better. Sometimes if i am planting a mix of grass and alfalfa, I will spin the grass on, and then use the drill to cover the grass/plant the alfalfa. You can find an old drill cheap(at least around here). I have a John Deere Van Brunt FB and paid $25 for it. I like it because to me it seems like it is more precise than the spinner that i have. I have used it to plant timothy, clover, alfalfa, oats, wheat, spelt, and soybeans. In this area (PA) almost all farmers use a drill.

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RayP(MI)

09-15-2004 18:16:49

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Re: Broadcast vs Drop seeder vs drain grill in reply to JEMSA, 09-15-2004 16:19:41

For just a few acres, you might find an old drill with rusted out fertilizer section for just a few $. I have found that I can get a more consistant stand with a drill that applies the seed at a consistant rate, and depth. Another alternative, if you want to use a cyclone type seeder is to get one of the better fertilizer spreaders designed to be pulled by a garden tractor, or 4 wheeler. You'd be suprised, you can cover a lot of territory with one of those in a few hours too.

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thurlow

09-15-2004 17:09:11

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Re: Broadcast vs Drop seeder vs drain grill in reply to JEMSA, 09-15-2004 16:19:41

I guess this doesn't really answer your question, but..... ....I would look for a 3-point hitch spin-type seeder. It's essentially the same as your "cyclone" seeder, except it's tractor mounted and MUCH larger. Should be able to find a used one for $200 or $300. Depending on the size of the seed you're sowing, follow with cultipacker, do-all or light harrowing..... .

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TP from Central PA

09-15-2004 17:54:51

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Re: Broadcast vs Drop seeder vs drain grill in reply to thurlow, 09-15-2004 17:09:11

Agree with the 3pt spinner spreader..... .We used a drill, and couldn't see keeping it after we like how our IH Cyclo planter worked with beans. Tried a spinner spreader and it worked just as good as the drill and it is sure alot less to maintain.

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JEMSA

09-15-2004 17:58:11

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Re: Broadcast vs Drop seeder vs drain grill in reply to TP from Central PA, 09-15-2004 17:54:51

Thanks for the feedback. Amazing - group concensus!

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Chris Brown

09-15-2004 18:14:19

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Re: Broadcast vs Drop seeder vs drain grill in reply to JEMSA, 09-15-2004 17:58:11

I don't know where you are,but here in Missouri our USDA offices have equipment to rent and they always have brand new grain drills. Sometimes implement dealers rent equipment. With only 20 acres to do,I would not buy a grain drill. I have been broad cast seeding soybeans on 50 acres for 4 years now with very good results,with one pass with the disk harrow before seeding and one pass after,it falls under to till at the USDA and I still get paid.

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