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King Kutter Pull Type Cutter questions

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Brian in NY

09-15-2004 11:09:33




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A few questions about this cutter.

1) Anybody own one of these, and is it going to last me a while? I am cutting about 10 acres of pasture (clean) twice a year.
2) Any additional maintainence concerns?

3) The u-joint or gearbox seems to make quite a clang when I disengage pto. It is all well lubricated. THis is a new unit..any ideas?

4) My H has no problems with the cutter, and I am mowing in 2nd gear at about 1/3 throttle. The governor kicks in briefly in the heavy stuff, but it cuts great...should I being using more rpm?

5) Should I get this cutter raised up and hosed down underneath before winter?

Appreciate the input for a rookie!

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Mark Bow

09-16-2004 17:36:29




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 Re: King Kutter Pull Type Cutter questions in reply to Brian in NY, 09-15-2004 11:09:33  
Brian,

Couple things. Most brush cutters have swinging blades, so often clang together during startup/shutdown. Also, I hope you got an overrunning pto adapter when you got the cutter. Getting pushed by heavey rotating equipment after you push the clutch in is extremely dangerous.



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Brian in NY

09-17-2004 06:55:02




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 Re: King Kutter Pull Type Cutter questions in reply to Mark Bow, 09-16-2004 17:36:29  
Don't have an overrunning PTO adapter....could someone tell me how that works, and what do you mean "getting pushed"? I am a little confused...obviously the cutter ain't pushin my H around...lol....I just don't know what you mean.

Thanks



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1945 A

09-17-2004 12:20:01




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 Re: King Kutter Pull Type Cutter questions in reply to Brian in NY, 09-17-2004 06:55:02  
The over-running clutch goes between your pto shaft and the implement. What it does, is allow your mower to "free wheel" when the pto is disengaged, and that might get real important if you ever find yourself needing to stop in a hurry!
Otherwise, the inertia of the spinning blades will keep "driving" (pushing) your tractor forward until the wheels stop turning. The other thing that I like (read my other post) is that with the clutch, you can start your mower turning, disengage the pto for a minute, put the tractor and pto in gear, and the whole thing will be a much easier start...
You can get the clutch at your local tractor supply for about $50----not a bad investment, in my opinion!

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1945 A

09-16-2004 08:37:36




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 Re: King Kutter Pull Type Cutter questions in reply to Brian in NY, 09-15-2004 11:09:33  
I don't have a King Kutter (or an H, for that matter, LOL), but I do pull an FMC "Sidewinder" 6' mower behind my JD "A".
One of the tricks I discovered by accident, was, that if I briefly engage the pto, with the tractor in neutral, it gets the mower spinning, then, I put the tractor in gear, and start mowing. It seems to be an easier start, than if I just take off. I have an over-running clutch on my pto, which allows the blades to spin independently when the pto is disengaged.
Good Luck!

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Jerry/MT

09-15-2004 19:37:26




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 Re: King Kutter Pull Type Cutter questions in reply to Brian in NY, 09-15-2004 11:09:33  
If you have a tach and an owners manual, you'll see an engine rpm quoted for 540 rpm at the PTO. It's usually at about 75 %of max rpm. That's where the PTO should be runing and you then select the gear by the ground speed required to give a good cut.



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Russ Smart

09-15-2004 15:54:33




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 Re: King Kutter Pull Type Cutter questions in reply to Brian in NY, 09-15-2004 11:09:33  
They are designed to rut at 540 rpm which would be almost ful throttle, providing your govenor is set right. We have a 5' lift type that we have used for about 5 yrs. and it's a good machine for the money



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thefarm

09-15-2004 14:01:45




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 Re: King Kutter Pull Type Cutter questions in reply to Brian in NY, 09-15-2004 11:09:33  
Didn't they give you a manual with this thing???



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Brian in NY

09-15-2004 14:11:55




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 Re: King Kutter Pull Type Cutter questions in reply to thefarm, 09-15-2004 14:01:45  
Yeah they gave me a manual, but I have learned over the years that if all you do is stick to the manual, you might be missing out on a lot of tricks learned the hard way by fellow knuckle bashers.

Sorry if my questions are a bother.



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Allan in NE

09-15-2004 14:37:50




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 Re: King Kutter Pull Type Cutter questions in reply to Brian in NY, 09-15-2004 14:11:55  
Hi Brian,

Look under your mower (with it shut off of course).

If it is anything like mine, you are going to immediately see why she clanks on start up and shut down.

Those cutter blades are just swinging around loose on their pinning.

And another thing: your question is NOT A BOTHER!

Allan



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R Wyler

09-15-2004 11:42:31




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 Re: King Kutter Pull Type Cutter questions in reply to Brian in NY, 09-15-2004 11:09:33  
I have a new King Kutter pull type myself I bought it last spring a 5 foot model. I use it with my M Farmall Mine is smooth when I disengage though it starts rather roughly when I put the pto in gear at times I usually run it about half throttle or a little over sometimes I idle it down depending on what seems to work the best for what I am cutting I also mow a large area maybe 8 acres or a little more on my farm. I don't know what would be causeing that noise though. Since it is full of oil and everything. They are a well made machine for the money and they should last years if taken care of and not abused. If it has a build up under the deck then I would wash it out though from my experience most mowers like that never seem to have much if any build up under them for some reason. R Wyler

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