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JD 14T Needle Brake Question

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Bill VA

09-12-2004 09:51:56

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I'm starting to play around with my 14T baler and tripped the knotter. I then grabbed the flywheel and started moving the plunger (it was not stuck -yippee), when the plunger comes back away from the chamber, I get enough resistance to stop any motion and I can't turn the flywheel any further by hand. I think the needle brake is to tight and/or frozen.

Soooo, my question is - should I take the brake loose or should I just spin the flywheel a little harder and let the momentum of it try to break the needle brake loose? Also, how difficult is it to reset the needle brake?

BTW, I have the manual, it's an easy enough read, but I wanted to get some opinions from some of you who have this baler too.

Thanks in advance,
Bill

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old

09-12-2004 12:27:36

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Re: JD 14T Needle Brake Question in reply to Bill VA, 09-12-2004 09:51:56

To bad you aren't close to Missouri I have a 14T and a 24T that would have some good parts on it, but thats all they are parts

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Sid

09-12-2004 12:14:26

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Re: JD 14T Needle Brake Question in reply to Bill VA, 09-12-2004 09:51:56

If you havent already I think I would see that the knotters and every thing will take grease and apply some penetrating fluids to places that do not take grease. sometimes if you are rolling the flywheel in reverse I have noticed a tendency for this to happen for some reason,when it would spin freely by hand in the right direction.

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Bill VA

09-12-2004 15:48:22

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Re: JD 14T Needle Brake Question in reply to Sid, 09-12-2004 12:14:26

Sid,

There is plenty of grease! If there was one thing the former owner did was keep this think lubed!

I loostened the needle brake and the plunger and knotter complete their cycles.

Thanks!
Bill

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Sid

09-12-2004 12:14:18

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Re: JD 14T Needle Brake Question in reply to Bill VA, 09-12-2004 09:51:56

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Bob

09-12-2004 11:07:30

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Re: JD 14T Needle Brake Question in reply to Bill VA, 09-12-2004 09:51:56

There's the NEEDLE BRAKE, a disc with spring-loaded brake pads on it, that puts a certain amount of resistance on the needle and knotter mechanism, to prevent the needles and cradle from flopping around, so the neddles don't get in the way of the plunger, by moving at the wrong time.

Then, there's the PLUNGER STOP, a catch "dog" that swings in the way of the plunger, and stops it, shearing the flywheel pin, anytime the plunger begins to approach the needles, and they are "out of time", and not in the "home" position.

Which is giving you you the problem, the NEEDLE BRAKE, or the PLUNGER STOP?

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Bill VA

09-12-2004 15:51:10

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Re: JD 14T Needle Brake Question in reply to Bob, 09-12-2004 11:07:30

Hey Bob,

It was the needle brake! I loostened it and the plunger and knotter complete their cycles. BTW, I checked if the plunger stop was coming in and out of the chamber and it is.

Getting myself aquainted with this baler!

Thanks again,
Bill

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RobN

09-12-2004 12:48:13

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Re: JD 14T Needle Brake Question in reply to Bob, 09-12-2004 11:07:30

Page 27 in the JD Operator's manual shows the tension/force setting to create the necessary resistance for the needle frame. The brake plate and/or pad might be causing too much brake effect due to dirt, rust, etc. HTH.

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Bill VA

09-12-2004 15:53:18

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Re: JD 14T Needle Brake Question in reply to RobN, 09-12-2004 12:48:13

Rob,

It was the needle brake that was frozen - at least to a resistance enough to prevent me from turning the flywheel by hand! I loostened it-up and the plunger and knotter complete their cycles - cool!

Thanks again,
Bill

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Bill VA

09-12-2004 15:53:11

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Re: JD 14T Needle Brake Question in reply to RobN, 09-12-2004 12:48:13

Rob,

It was the needle brake that was frozen - at least to a resistance enough to prevent me from turning the flywheel by hand! I loostened it-up and the plunger and knotter complete their cycles - cool!

Thanks again,
Bill

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