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The long drive

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pbutler

09-08-2004 11:54:51




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Bought a 20ft Krause Disk at an auction about 30 miles from home last weekend. Since my flatbed has fenders unloading some equipment can be a bear so I decided to just tow it home 30 miles with the YukonXL 1500 (only 1/2 ton). Big mistake.

The disk has a large harrow on the back and probably close to 300lb up force on the hitch-so the back of the truck was sitting up to start out.

It trailered real nice through the auction yard. Then we hit the highway...

As soon as I passed 9mph the disk (duals on each side) would start oscillating so hard side to side that I could actually hear the truck tires start to squeal. The only way to get it to stop was to bring the whole rig to a complete stop.

I ended up drive home 30 miles at 8mph or less. Simetimes it would hit a pothole and I would have to some to a complete stop to get her straight again.

4 hours later I was home, low on gas, tired, and cranky as heck. But at least me or no one else got hurt. I am sure that was NOT good for the Suburban driveline or frame and suspension-though she still drives fine.

I would have been better off to trailer a small tractor up there and pull it home with that instead of the truck.

Lesson learned here is before heading out get whatever you may be towing up to speed and see how it trailers.

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dej(JED)

09-10-2004 07:47:47




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 Re: The long drive in reply to pbutler, 09-08-2004 11:54:51  
I bought a NH 66 baler at an auction this spring. The right side spindal had been changed to a metal on metal rolling wheel shaft. When I was leaving the owner told me that if I drove over 15 mph it was going to heat up. I had to go 15 miles with it. After stopping at every mud puddle along the way home, to cool the metal with water, I got home 3 hrs. later.



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Allan in NE

09-10-2004 08:54:04




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 Re: The long drive in reply to dej(JED), 09-10-2004 07:47:47  
Geeeze!

You guys are depressin' me and it's too late to stop payment on the check! :>(

Allan



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John (MO)

09-09-2004 14:21:28




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 Re: The long drive in reply to pbutler, 09-08-2004 11:54:51  
Been there! Done that! In the rain!

But, I'll have to add this: Stopped at a side road once to tighten up the come-along that was taking some of the slop out of the hitch. An old fellow in a pick up stoped to see if I needed any help. He understood the problem, said he had also been there and done that. As we were getting ready to take off again, I ask him to keep his fingers crossed for us, that we made it the rest of the way home. I sat down in the truck and my wife slapped me in the back of the head. She said "didn't you see he didn't have any fingers?" I hadn't, I was too busy trying to take more sway out of the hitch

We did get the disk home in one piece at about 15 mph. But some old farmer is undoubtedly still cursing me for being a wiseass.

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Allan in NE

09-09-2004 15:29:27




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 Re: The long drive in reply to John (MO), 09-09-2004 14:21:28  
Naw,

Betcha he instead worried about you getting home with your load.....

The "stop & help" types are rare and getting rarer by the day, fingers or not.

Your comment didn�t even register with him, 'cause he knew you didn't say it deliberately to be mean.

Allan



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Allan in NE

09-09-2004 15:26:28




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 Re: The long drive in reply to John (MO), 09-09-2004 14:21:28  
Naw,

Betcha he instead worried about you getting home with your load.....

The "stop & help" types are rare and getting rarer by the day, fingers or not.

Your comment didn�t even register with him, 'cause he knew you didn't say it deliberately to be mean.

Allan



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JMS/MN

09-08-2004 16:12:10




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 Re: The long drive in reply to pbutler, 09-08-2004 11:54:51  
If you have livestock,and buy feed- load the pickup with a half ton, and do like the other's said, use a come-along to pull the hitch tight. Weight of the feed makes up for the 'up' tounge weight. If you don't have livestock- borrow some feed from the local dealer. They understand!



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t

09-08-2004 14:38:44




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 Re: The long drive in reply to pbutler, 09-08-2004 11:54:51  
Not familiar with Krause, but some of the old JD disks had a lot of "slop" in the hitch. Would sway even behind a tractor.....fix was to 'come-a-long' one front corner to front of hitch.....removing slack in hitch. True story..... many years ago we (my Dad actually) needed a bigger disk; auction sale about 50 miles away with several disks in it; also across the Mississippi and in another state from us. Had a new bob-truck; figured to carry it and get the disk (if we bought one) loaded on truck....looking for about a 14 ft. disk. Local JD dealer was a personal friend; asked him for his opinion. His advice, "You put a 14 ft disk on a truck, with appropriate flags, permits, etc.; you've got to stop at the weigh station; also every sheriff's deputy, state trooper, constable, etc. is gonna pull you over and check you out with a fine tooth comb. Instead, just go in your pick-up, hitch your disk on behind and drag it home. Just go on by the weigh station.....they don't care; every sheriff's deputy, state trooper, constable, etc. is gonna give you a half-a$$ed wave and say to themselves or their partner, 'Look at that poor, dumb, son-of-a-bit*h'; I promise not a single one will pull you over." That was about 30 or 35 years ago; for the last 30 or 35 years, I have found his advice to be right on the money.

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Rick Kr

09-08-2004 13:59:05




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 Re: The long drive in reply to pbutler, 09-08-2004 11:54:51  
Funny, but not funny.
Funny because I did the same thing. 30 miles with a 13 footer. No where your size but still came close to eating a couple of mailboxes. Did this in January down country roads with drifts piled up. I could barely get over far enough into the snow for on-coming cars. Took two cans of fix-a-flat in the one tire.
Not funny cause I had a kink in my neck for two days. Luckily I could run about 15mph with no sway.
Rick

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Rick Kr

09-08-2004 13:56:44




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 Re: The long drive in reply to pbutler, 09-08-2004 11:54:51  
Funny, but not funny.
Funny because I did the same thing. 30 miles with a 13 footer. No where your size but still came close to eating a couple of mailboxes. Did this in January down country roads with drifts piled up. I could barely get over far enough into the snow for on-coming cars. Took two cans of fix-a-flat in the one tire.
Not funny cause I had a kink in my neck for two days. Luckily I could run about 15mph with no sway.
Rick

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Allan in NE

09-08-2004 12:12:25




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 Re: The long drive in reply to pbutler, 09-08-2004 11:54:51  
PB,

Hmmm, I was getting ready to do the same thing this coming Sunday morning.

My outfit is not nearly as big as yours, only about 16', but maybe I should just take the darned tractor? I only have to drag it about 12 miles.

Allan



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paul

09-08-2004 15:25:52




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 Re: The long drive in reply to Allan in NE, 09-08-2004 12:12:25  
I went 12 miles with my JD disk, 11 mph and it swayed. Was a drizzly rain, I was real cold from the auction.

The come-along tip up above works well. The problem with this horrid sway:

1. Weight to the rear of the implement, pulling up on the hitch.

2. A short wheelbase.

3. Loose hitch that can wabble side to side.

A disk often has _all 3_ of those problems.

If you put a come-along from the far right side of the machine to the hitch pin & snug it up good, you take out all the wobble in the hitch area. This greatly reduces the side-slap that starts the wobble.

--->Paul

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Allan in NE

09-08-2004 12:09:24




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 Re: The long drive in reply to pbutler, 09-08-2004 11:54:51  
PB,

Hmmm, I was getting ready to do the same thing this coming Sunday morning.

My outfit is not nearly as big as yours, only about 16', but maybe I should just take the darned tractor? I only have to drag it about 12 miles.

Allan



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Randy-IA

09-09-2004 19:10:01




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 Re: The long drive in reply to Allan in NE, 09-08-2004 12:09:24  
One thing more you might want to do is make sure the tires are aired up equally if possible . low tires will cause bad sway . Good luck and have fun , Randy-IA



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