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R Wyler

08-30-2004 19:13:00




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I am getting ready to drill about 22 acre's of some 2174 winter wheat. I am going to use 18-46-0 with the fertilizer box on my 510 16x8 drill I have never used this on wheat before but from what I gather around 100 lbs per acre is about right? This is in northern OK, Thanks for any info.




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kyhayman

08-31-2004 12:30:06




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 Re: WInter Wheat fertilizer in reply to R Wyler, 08-30-2004 19:13:00  
Wheat is a heavy feeder of N and K, needs very little P. 100# of DAP will put you some 60-90# short of actual N needs and is giving you 0 K.

80# per acre of actual K and actual N is about what it takes here. I usually have the local co-op blend 250# 34-0-0 ammonium nitrate and 200# muriate of potash 0-0-60 per acre in a spreader and broadcast in early Feb. This is with an understanding all my fields test above the detectable range of the laboratory in P and low to med in K.

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R Wyler

08-31-2004 12:49:38




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 Re: WInter Wheat fertilizer in reply to kyhayman, 08-31-2004 12:30:06  
From what I gather K means Pottasium doesn't it? R Wyler



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kyhayman

08-31-2004 19:14:25




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 Re: WInter Wheat fertilizer in reply to R Wyler, 08-31-2004 12:49:38  
Yes, K is the (periodic table) symbol for potassium. Provided as fertilizer raw ingredients in the forms of muriate or sulfate of potash (0-0-60 and 0-0-50) plus lesser quantities as potasssium nitrate. Also, I failed to mention in my previous post that urea or anhydrous ammonia would be excellent N sources, they are just not available locally to me. Ammonium nitrate is the exclusive local source of synthetic N due to the tobacco industry. If using urea or anhydrous rates of actual product (as opposed to actual N) would be reduced accordingly.

Probably way more than you care to know about it but potassium (K), iron (Fe), copper (Cu) and others known to the ancient Romans are represented by the symbol for the Latin name rather than the English name for more modern discoveries such as nitrogen (N), and phosphorous (P)

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R Wyler

09-01-2004 12:18:29




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 Re: WInter Wheat fertilizer in reply to kyhayman, 08-31-2004 19:14:25  
Thanks for telling me this, I was looking at a site and it looked like K ment potassium. I see alot of farmers use the amonia gas and the liquid as well most likely it is urea, I am thinking the liquid is favored over dry fert as it looks to be easier to handle once equiped for it over the dry. R Wyler



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JMS/MN

09-02-2004 11:09:14




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 Re: WInter Wheat fertilizer in reply to R Wyler, 09-01-2004 12:18:29  
Ammonia is usually the cheapest source of nitrogen. Liquid N is 28% nitrogen. Urea is the dry form, and usually the most expensive, since it requires more processing than the other two forms. Urea is the easiest and safest to handle, especially for inexperienced people. Ammonia is the most dangerous, but cheapest- you don't want to inhale that product.



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R Wyler

09-03-2004 15:26:14




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 Re: WInter Wheat fertilizer in reply to JMS/MN, 09-02-2004 11:09:14  
Yes that amonia is something I will have no part of I also here it is hard on the soil. Urea is indeed good fert dry and liquid is the best types and amonia is just cheap junk IMO. R Wyler



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JMS/MN

08-30-2004 22:25:17




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 Re: WInter Wheat fertilizer in reply to R Wyler, 08-30-2004 19:13:00  
Fertilizer application rates need to be determined on the basis of soil tests and yield goals. Soil conditions vary across the country, each state, and each farm. An individual farm of several hundred acres typically has several different existing conditions, and with various crops, needs a multitude of rates and mixes, depending on the crop being planted.



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R Wyler

08-31-2004 06:41:51




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 Re: WInter Wheat fertilizer in reply to JMS/MN, 08-30-2004 22:25:17  
Yes that is very true. I have thought about haveing it tested. I'll just use good judement and take it from there. R Wyler



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Leland

08-31-2004 21:49:59




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 Re: WInter Wheat fertilizer in reply to R Wyler, 08-31-2004 06:41:51  
I would get soil tested if I were you, you might not need as much fert as you think. besides you are planning to side dress it this spring with a shot of N



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R Wyler

09-01-2004 12:21:14




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 Re: WInter Wheat fertilizer in reply to Leland, 08-31-2004 21:49:59  
Yes I am going to have it tested. I would like to give it some N next spring yes. It might be getting late to get test results back now before I need to plant though. R Wyler



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Leland

09-01-2004 18:39:13




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 Re: WInter Wheat fertilizer in reply to R Wyler, 09-01-2004 12:21:14  
soil test should only take 2 days ,plenty of time before you plant.



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R Wyler

09-03-2004 15:27:51




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 Re: WInter Wheat fertilizer in reply to Leland, 09-01-2004 18:39:13  
Really? Who should I contact for this? Thanks for the help. R Wyler



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Leland

09-04-2004 18:54:22




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 Re: WInter Wheat fertilizer in reply to R Wyler, 09-03-2004 15:27:51  
Just call your fertlizer dealer, or a soil lab some will come out and take samples for you.



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R Wyler

09-04-2004 18:58:02




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 Re: WInter Wheat fertilizer in reply to Leland, 09-04-2004 18:54:22  
Thanks that would be easy to do. I think I know of a good place to ask. R Wyler



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Leland

09-04-2004 18:53:22




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 Re: WInter Wheat fertilizer in reply to R Wyler, 09-03-2004 15:27:51  
Just call your fertlizer dealer, or a soil lab some will come out and take samples for you.



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