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Round Bales vs Large Square Bales

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Bill VA

08-30-2004 18:36:19




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I saw a tractor trailer going down the interstate the other day with a flatbed load of large square bales. My question is - what is your preference between round and large square bales?

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Bill




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Cliff Neubauer

09-01-2004 18:19:06




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 Re: Round Bales vs Large Square Bales in reply to Bill VA, 08-30-2004 18:36:19  
We don"t do any large square bales but there are a couple guys in our area that do. If I was in the market for a new baler I would look hard at a used big square baler instead of a new big round baler, yes they cost more but they are also much faster since you never have to stop to tie and eject the bales. We currently round bale our lower quality hay and small square bale our alfalfa to sell and with a big square baler we could cut way down on the number of small square bales needed.

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JJL

08-31-2004 22:37:04




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 Re: Round Bales vs Large Square Bales in reply to Bill VA, 08-30-2004 18:36:19  
The people with large square balers in my area are strictly baling for mushroom mulch in PA. They stack it on semis and run it down Route 81 all the time.

Would hate to see their bills from the farm equipment dealerships.



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bvomark

08-31-2004 12:27:52




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 Re: Round Bales vs Large Square Bales in reply to Bill VA, 08-30-2004 18:36:19  
My neighbor just bought a big square baler last summer due to his health. Bales are easier to stack and take up less room than round bales. He built a chain driven feeder to flake off the bales. Equipment costs are higher but there is less waste and no clean up from the mess left with round bales. Moisture can be a problem with the big squares, but it can also be a problem with round bales and small squares. The only downside I can see is the equipment cost.

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txblu

08-31-2004 05:54:20




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 Re: Round Bales vs Large Square Bales in reply to Bill VA, 08-30-2004 18:36:19  
Try to buy the baler for large squares. You"ll drop your teeth even if they are not false.

Next question is, how do you feed it? A roll, has a hay hoop and the cows can reach over half way across. Donno what they do with one of those giants.

Mark



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Hay Dr

08-30-2004 21:30:23




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 Re: Round Bales vs Large Square Bales in reply to Bill VA, 08-30-2004 18:36:19  
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Both the large square and the large round bales have their places. The large square is usually used in commercial hay operations where the square shape is easy to ship hay on over the road 18 wheel tractor and trailers. Alfalfa is sold often in the large square bales to upper scale customers in the dairy and horse industry. Large Square balers range in cost from $55,000 - $100,000 and take 100 hp and above tractors to operate these balers.
The cow/calf and feeder industry use the large round bales because of efficiency of economy. Large round balers range from $12,000-$30,000 and need from 40-80 HP to operate these balers. Machinery cost alone puts the large square at a big disadvantage. 100-400 large square balers are sold every year while 8,000-12,000 round balers are sold every year.

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Hay Dr

08-30-2004 21:29:41




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 Re: Round Bales vs Large Square Bales in reply to Bill VA, 08-30-2004 18:36:19  
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Both the large square and the large round bales have their places. The large square is usually used in commercial hay operations where the square shape is easy to ship hay on over the road 18 wheel tractor and trailers. Alfalfa is sold often in the large square bales to upper scale customers in the dairy and horse industry. Large Square balers range in cost from $55,000 - $100,000 and take 100 hp and above tractors to operate these balers.
The cow/calf and feeder industry use the large round bales because of efficiency of economy. Large round balers range from $12,000-$30,000 and need from 40-80 HP to operate these balers. Machinery cost alone puts the large square at a big disadvantage. 100-400 large square balers are sold every year while 8,000-12,000 round balers are sold every year.

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Brent in Iowa

08-30-2004 19:56:09




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 Re: Round Bales vs Large Square Bales in reply to Bill VA, 08-30-2004 18:36:19  
Bought my first big squares last winter and won"t buy another round again unless I need to store outside. I have inside space for all my hay right now.

For handling them I used my round bale spear just like the guy who loaded my gooseneck did, stabbed it right in the center of the long side of the bale (about 2/3 down) so it wouldn"t tip to either side and stacked them 4 high in my shed. Take up way less space than rounds.

They aren"t as handy for self-feeding since they don"t fit in a round ring easy but come apart in slabs just like small squares so are good for hand-feeding.

Nothing against rounds but these stack well on the trailer and in the shed and like I said you can hand-feed from them which is a pain in the rear with big rounds.

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Roy in UK

08-30-2004 23:42:14




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 Re: Round Bales vs Large Square Bales in reply to Brent in Iowa, 08-30-2004 19:56:09  
Over here the big square is taking over rapidly from the big round.
This year has been by far the wettest August on record, in fact many fields of wheat are a flattened soggy sprouting mess! I see a lot of loads of big square straw bales going along the road that are "a bit dark" to say the least. If there is the slightest bit of moisture in these super dense slabs, then the whole thing becomes mouldy. There is going to be some big disappointments when the strings are cut I can tell you.

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kyhayman

08-30-2004 18:56:30




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 Re: Round Bales vs Large Square Bales in reply to Bill VA, 08-30-2004 18:36:19  
In the Eastern US it is very difficult to get hay dry enough to bale in large squares without using preservatives. Bulk density is much higher on large squares.



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paul

08-30-2004 18:53:19




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 Re: Round Bales vs Large Square Bales in reply to Bill VA, 08-30-2004 18:36:19  
Large square pack tight, and ship much easier on a semi.

Round bales has more cheap used equipmernt for handling them, and they can be stored outside - squares rot.

So, for your own farm, rounds end up cheaper & simpler. For huge volumes of hay & long transport distances, large square.

--->Paul



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