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Opinions on Pto driven rakes

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Randy-IA

08-25-2004 18:15:10




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Are they better or worse than ground driven rubber tire rakes . I know where one is at but it needs some work . I can see some advantages but never having used either kind I'm left wondering why more of them weren't made . Most seem to be the ground driven rubber tire , at least for the still affordable older style 5-bar rakes . This one is pto to a belt drive . Seems to me you could run it at a hi pto speed and slow ground speed to fluff and then lower the rpm and raise the ground speed to windrow ? Am I missing something ? I don't know the make or model . Thanks , Randy-IA

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RayP(MI)

08-26-2004 18:57:14




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 Re: Opinions on Pto driven rakes in reply to Randy-IA, 08-25-2004 18:15:10  
Have an old New Idea 5 bar/3pt/pto driven rake. I'm happy with it's performance. Makes light fluffy windrows that dry easily. Usually rake idled back in 3rd gear (Farmall 200), can really cover the field fast. Very manuverable especially in odd shaped fields. A short turn to the right produces a wide smooth round windrow that is easy to follow with baler. Does a clean job, and follows the contours of the ground well. 3 caster tail wheels keep it from bottoming out like a trailer type rake. Have seen wheel rakes used on these same fields, leaving much hay - bound, bound, bounce!

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Geo in SD

08-27-2004 05:33:07




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 Re: Opinions on Pto driven rakes in reply to RayP(MI), 08-26-2004 18:57:14  
Your comment on leaving hay on the ground- There are a lot of wheel and vee rakes here in my area, and most of seem to miss a lot of hay. Now, I don't know if it is operator error, mis adjustment, or what, but I wouldn't want to leave that much hay on the field, it's just like dollars laying there.



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txblu

08-26-2004 06:10:08




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 Re: Opinions on Pto driven rakes in reply to Randy-IA, 08-25-2004 18:15:10  
Don"t knock those old relics. I think the 5 bar, side discharge, ground driven rake is THE rake. Will rake anything, any amount, any wind condition and do it day after day. Tried others and YUK!

Mark



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Hay Dr

08-26-2004 05:51:25




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 Re: Opinions on Pto driven rakes in reply to Randy-IA, 08-25-2004 18:15:10  
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If you want to get some work done and not waste all day raking, get you a V-Rake.They start for less than $2,000 new and will pay for themselves the first year in time saved. The V-Rakes will rake hay at the rate of 10-20 acres a hour. You can do in an hour or two with a V-rake what it will take you all day with a bar or rotary rake.

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Tim(nj)

08-26-2004 09:24:48




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 Re: Opinions on Pto driven rakes in reply to Hay Dr, 08-26-2004 05:51:25  
That"s all well and good for big fields and round balers. However, when you"ve got little odd-shaped fields, v-rakes are clumsy. When you"ve got shale soil like we have in some places, you get pieces of stone in the windrow. When you are small square baling for horses in 150 bale per acre timothy like we typically get the v-rake windrows are too big. They don"t work perfectly for everybody everywhere.

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cannonball

08-26-2004 06:54:44




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 Re: Opinions on Pto driven rakes in reply to Hay Dr, 08-26-2004 05:51:25  
the twin rakes are good for the money but they do not clean corners very good.. i like the twin v rakes myself.....have nice day may god bless



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Geo in SD

08-26-2004 04:25:55




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 Re: Opinions on Pto driven rakes in reply to Randy-IA, 08-25-2004 18:15:10  
I have owned two pto driven rakes and have nothing bad to say about them. I think they work better and are more versatile than a ground driven rake. Mine was a Ford 3pt. Some will laugh at this, but I could rake with it in road gear and still do a good job.
Neither one shattered alfalfa leaves, either.



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JeffF

08-26-2004 08:06:50




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 Re: Opinions on Pto driven rakes in reply to Geo in SD, 08-26-2004 04:25:55  
Does your rake have a stripper that also runs off of a belt? I had some trouble with mine, the rake had been bent up a bit and the stripper kept hitting the tines when rotating. I turned down an extention for the bar that it hangs off of and moved it out 3.5". Now the stripper clears the tines but hay wraps around the stripper bar. Do you have any thoughts on fixing this? If I simply remove the stripper it works until I start putting together heavy winrows and then it drags around the PTO shaft and up on top of the rake.

Jeff

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Geo in SD

08-27-2004 05:25:01




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 Re: Opinions on Pto driven rakes in reply to JeffF, 08-26-2004 08:06:50  
Yeah, I had the rotary stripper on mine. If a tooth would get bent out on one of the rake bars, it would hit the stripper. The distance of the stripper from the rake teeth is important for proper stripper action. I had a bar break one time, thought I would fix it by welding and adding a piece for reinforcment. Wrong thing to do, It was out of balance, shook like a leaf in the wind, and busted again from the shake and vibration. That incident dinged up the stripper bar somewhat, and after that I had hay get hung up on the stripper from time to time.

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Roy in UK

08-25-2004 23:26:37




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 Re: Opinions on Pto driven rakes in reply to Randy-IA, 08-25-2004 18:15:10  
I can"t make any comments about alfalfa as it is not grown here as such. Where grass hay is concerned the PTO driven rotary rake / tedder is king over here. As has been said, they dont call them "windrows" for nothing. Air travels through the fluffed up swath left by a rotary much easier than that left by a land driven rake. The land driven rakes tend to leave it a bit "ropey" too, and I have found the baler prefers to follow a rotary. (Unless it is an older type baler with a narrow pick-up with not many tines on the reel) I tell you what though, if you have a very short,light crop (e.g. second cut hay that did not come up to expectations due to lack of rainfall) then ye olde land rake does come into its own then. It will scratch up every last little bit.

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Jim.UT

08-25-2004 20:51:23




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 Re: Opinions on Pto driven rakes in reply to Randy-IA, 08-25-2004 18:15:10  
I've used both pto rakes and ground drive rakes. For me, a pto rake works better because I work very small parcels of land. The maneuverablity of the 3 point rake is what I need. The pull-behind ground drive rake was just too cumbersum. I'd like to try a small 2 or 3 wheel rake sometime. Maybe if I run onto one at a giveaway price I'll give it a try.



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bubba

08-25-2004 19:23:48




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 Re: Opinions on Pto driven rakes in reply to Randy-IA, 08-25-2004 18:15:10  
PTO rakes are more versatile than ground driven rakes.You are correct in the PTO rake allowing you to fluff up a windrow or wind it up nice and slow and tight if you please.They don't call em "windrows" for nothing.Fluffing them up real big lets more wind through the hay.Get that hay up in the air as high as you can get it.If you are worried about leaf loss then start when the dew is still on.In my opinion the ultimate rake is driven with a hydraulic motor.You can even tedd with them.I have use all kinds of rakes over the years and the one with the least interest in my owning one would be a wheel rake.Other than being very gentle on the hay, I can't say anything else good about them.

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RickL

08-25-2004 19:06:20




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 Re: Opinions on Pto driven rakes in reply to Randy-IA, 08-25-2004 18:15:10  
Randy; I would not use them anymore as they tend to shatter alfalfa lots more. I only use the large wheel rakes. I have several different types rakes for sale if that would help.



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RickL

08-25-2004 19:06:03




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 Re: Opinions on Pto driven rakes in reply to Randy-IA, 08-25-2004 18:15:10  
Randy; I would not use them anymore as they tend to shatter alfalfa lots more. I only use the large wheel rakes. I have several different types rakes for sale if that would help.



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RickL

08-25-2004 19:05:52




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 Re: Opinions on Pto driven rakes in reply to Randy-IA, 08-25-2004 18:15:10  
Randy; I would not use them anymore as they tend to shatter alfalfa lots more. I only use the large wheel rakes. I have several different types rakes for sale if that would help.



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