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JackMcG

08-22-2004 08:48:25




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I have several small areas--three to five acres each, that I want to convert from weed/brush to pasture. They were sprayed with herbicide about 2 months ago. I don't have a drill and I'm wondering if I can do a light disking, broadcast pasture grass seed, then drag it with a spike harrow to cover the seed. Make sense?

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TimS

08-24-2004 12:12:13




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 Re: seeding small pastures in reply to JackMcG, 08-22-2004 08:48:25  
I just got thru doing this on a few acres that were almost all weeds on our property. What we did was keep mowing every couple weeks to help the grass choke the weeds out, then broadcast the seed and drag harrow it to cover it a bit and break up the top of the dirt a bit.

It has worked really well, it also helped we had a good bit of rain this summer.



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paul

08-23-2004 04:18:25




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 Re: seeding small pastures in reply to JackMcG, 08-22-2004 08:48:25  
As the others say, can work well, need to cover the seeds with 1/4 - 1/2 inch of dirt & hope for good light rains frequently.

A packer would be better, but the harrow works too.

--->Paul



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Jerry/MT

08-22-2004 21:02:42




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 Re: seeding small pastures in reply to JackMcG, 08-22-2004 08:48:25  
I don't know where you live, but if you can normally count on fall moisture, that's the best time to seed new pasture. Less competition from weeds and cooler temperatures with reliable moisture increase the odds of getting a good stand before the first heavy freeze. I agree with the guys that say a heavey disking if you don't drill the seed in. You'll be hard pressed to cover the seed with a harrow on lightly disked ground. You need to get some cover on the seed to get high germination rates. You should consider liming also if you soil pH is low. Last but not least, if you don't drill the seed, and have acess to a roller, roll the seeded ground to force good ground to seed contact.

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chuck

08-22-2004 18:41:56




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 Re: seeding small pastures in reply to JackMcG, 08-22-2004 08:48:25  
i think id disk it heavy--to rid yourself of the trash im sure is there--depending on where you are--you may belimited in what you can seed in the fall--try sowing wheat this fall that will tie down the soil for the winter and then graze it in the spring and sow your other seed in the spring--i planted oats and millet for summer pasture in missouri this spring and have more pasture than i can use and have bailed it also--not the best crop of hay i ever had--but it has done double duty--

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thurlow

08-22-2004 19:11:19




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 Re: seeding small pastures in reply to chuck , 08-22-2004 18:41:56  
I "might" tend to disagree with you on your timing; some grasses do much better fall seeded; depends on what you're seeding..... ..



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chuck

08-22-2004 18:35:02




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 Re: seeding small pastures in reply to JackMcG, 08-22-2004 08:48:25  
i think id disk it heavy--to rid yourself of the trash im sure is there--depending on where you are--you may belimited in what you can seed in the fall--try sowing wheat this fall that will tie down the soil for the winter and then graze it in the spring and sow your other seed in the spring--i planted oats and millet for summer pasture in missouri this spring and have more pasture than i can use and have bailed it also--not the best crop of hay i ever had--but it has done double duty--

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dfarmann

08-22-2004 15:09:11




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 Re: seeding small pastures in reply to JackMcG, 08-22-2004 08:48:25  
JackMcG,

Contact your local Pheasants Forever Chapter, Quail Unlimited or NRCS office. They will rent a Drill to you for this purpose. Remember once you expose new soil to the sun, the weeds will follow so a no-till drill would be my suggestion.

Dave



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Kelly MT

08-22-2004 14:31:43




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 Re: seeding small pastures in reply to JackMcG, 08-22-2004 08:48:25  
I've done that several times and it works good. It takes a higher seed rate to broadcast over drilling. I run a springtooth around before I seed. Also I set the spreader at half rate and do a cross pattern, no skips. I'd finish with a roller, better seed to dirt contact. Pk



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