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JD 336 baler

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Massey Steve

08-19-2004 16:40:18




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Found one for sale today - looking for a baler to do about 20 acres of mixed hay.

Looks fine. Bales from most recent cutting this month look nice.

Price $1700

Sound reasonable?

Will be driving it with a Massey-Harris 44 - enough oomph?

Thanks




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Massey Steve

08-20-2004 05:48:57




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 Re: JD 336 baler in reply to Massey Steve, 08-19-2004 16:40:18  
Thanks for the input. He called this morning - it is mine. Will holler with questions once it is in the field...
S



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caseyc

08-21-2004 21:01:39




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 Re: JD 336 baler in reply to Massey Steve, 08-20-2004 05:48:57  
awesome machine! used one all through high school on the farm i worked at. 25 now and finally going on my own. bought one in april for 2000...a steal in my area. it was "field ready" when i bought it. 2500 bales through it so far, about 1500 more to go and it hasn"t missed a beat, not even a knot! i use a 706 gas. plenty of tractor but i can really move the hay through it!



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Ken S.

08-19-2004 20:31:21




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 Re: JD 336 baler in reply to Massey Steve, 08-19-2004 16:40:18  
Just make sure the pan isn't all busted up. We used to pull ours with a SM.



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kyhayman

08-19-2004 18:37:28




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 Re: JD 336 baler in reply to Massey Steve, 08-19-2004 16:40:18  
SOunds like a steal to me if it is sound. Dealers here are getting weel over $4000, offered me over $3000 trade in on mine to a new one that they were willing to deal on.



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Aberdale Farm

08-19-2004 19:20:22




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 Re: JD 336 baler in reply to kyhayman, 08-19-2004 18:37:28  
I agree kyhayman. They are going for $3-4000 here too. A bale thrower will add another $500.

I've had a 336 for 4 years. It usually takes about ten bales to get all the kinks worked out, then it bales consistently after that. It's probably not the baler's fault. I guess I need to do a better job of cleaning it before I put it away.

Dale



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Ken Macfarlane

08-19-2004 17:39:21




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 Re: JD 336 baler in reply to Massey Steve, 08-19-2004 16:40:18  
Just bought a 336 for our place. Paid 2100$ Canadian which is just about 1700 USD. We"ve put 900 bales through it so far, the twine finger and needles needed adjustment so it missed the first 5 bales. Hasn"t missed one since.

Ours came with a broken thrower, I think it is just the oil pickup screen. We are dropping on the ground right now.

Check the knotter over for play, if they get too worn out it won"t tie consistantly.

As for tractor size, the manual says 35 hp, it pulls so much easier than the MF224 we also use it isn"t funny. The MF says only 30 hp needed but it bogs our 52 hp tractor down on every stroke even at pto speed. The 336 isn"t hardly noticable.

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T213R

08-19-2004 17:44:08




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 Re: JD 336 baler in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 08-19-2004 17:39:21  
Ah! The advantage of a huge flywheel perhaps!



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Roy in UK

08-20-2004 01:50:43




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 Re: JD 336 baler in reply to T213R, 08-19-2004 17:44:08  
Plus the fact the JD baler flywheel is in line with the ram as opposed to running at 90 degrees as on most other makes of baler.



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08-20-2004 05:06:38




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 Re: JD 336 baler in reply to Roy in UK, 08-20-2004 01:50:43  
Hello, re the flywheel, the MF has a heavier flywheel on the PTO shaft so it turns faster and should store more inertia. I don't know, maybe there is something out of adjustment.



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T213R

08-21-2004 19:42:55




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 Re: JD 336 baler in reply to [email protected], 08-20-2004 05:06:38  
Heavier flywheel on the pto shaft? Well sure! The flywheel on a John Deere isn't ON the pto shaft. Heavier flywheel on an MF, however? Better provide what that MF flywheel weighs!



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Ken Macfarlane

08-22-2004 06:03:10




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 Re: JD 336 baler in reply to T213R, 08-21-2004 19:42:55  
Sorry, re read what I wrote, should be lighter flywheel but turns faster. The MF flywheel spins at 540 rpm, the JD is only at what 80 rpm? Doesn"t really matter, the MF224 is a higher capacity baler but I don"t like the one we have much, it"s no fun to pull.



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T213R

08-22-2004 07:13:09




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 Higher capacity? If you have the manual--- in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 08-22-2004 06:03:10  
Perhaps you could post the operating specs for that MF Baler. I"d like to know the stroke speed, pickup width, size of feeder opening, etc. I know what the values are for my JD 337.



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T213R

08-22-2004 07:11:53




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 Higher capacity? If you have the manual--- in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 08-22-2004 06:03:10  
Perhaps you could post the operating specs for that MF Baler. I"d like to know the stroke speed, pickup width, size of feeder opening, etc. I know what the values are for my JD 337.



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Ken Macfarlane

08-22-2004 17:54:49




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 Re: Higher capacity? If you have the manual--- in reply to T213R, 08-22-2004 07:11:53  
MF 224
90 strokes / min rated (80 normal)
3060 lbs
slip clutch 480 ft-lbs
56" gathering width
284 sq in feeder opening
triple packer forks
30" stroke length

JD 336
80 strokes per min
2470 lbs
56" gathering width
289 sq in feeder opening
double packer forks
30" stroke length

Having both sitting in our equipment shed, the 336 chokes on big windrows, the feed auger stalls out when the packer can"t take it away fast enough. The MF 224 will swallow GIANT windrows to the point of shearing pins. The 224 is about 10-25% faster for us, but that savings is wasted on it breaking shear pins all the time and breaking other parts.

I much prefer the JD, it is reliable, easy to work on, and quiet.

Ken

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T213R

08-23-2004 08:25:17




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 Re: Higher capacity? If you have the manual--- in reply to Ken Macfarlane, 08-22-2004 17:54:49  
I have a 337. I haven"t found a windrow that the 337 won"t swallow. There were a few I was nervous about, but the baler didn"t seem to care. The pickup width on the 337 is 64" not counting flare, and it weighs 2972 #.



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Ken Macfarlane

08-23-2004 11:13:55




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 Re: Higher capacity? If you have the manual--- in reply to T213R, 08-23-2004 08:25:17  
Hello, I didn't realize they went to the wide pickup on the 337.

As the windrow gets heavier or the driver gets faster the auger will lift up and up until it hits the stop. Then you'll see hay bunch up at the end while it waits for the forks to pack it in. If it gets even heavier, the auger stalls out and a huge pile of windrow piles up in front of the pickup and stalls the pickup out.

The windrows that give it troubles are the ones that are double raked with the 9 ft rake. First gear low range is too fast for those!

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