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Rotary Hay Rakes

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buff_man

08-17-2004 17:10:48




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I used a rotary hay rake for the neighbor this weekend and was very impressed. It was a pto 3pth type. As long as you had the right height it picked up every thing in 6th gear high range. It impressed. Cut up those rollbars for scrap. This is the way to go. Any disadvanges you have noticed. It stands the hay real nice with that side catcher it has.




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Larry S.

08-18-2004 09:54:00




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 Re: Rotary Hay Rakes in reply to buff_man, 08-17-2004 17:10:48  
I just have to add in my .02 cents on this conversation. I have ran a NH / Kuhn hay tedder since the first one became availabale in 1982 in our area and have never looked back. I switched to my first Kuhn rotary rake 4 years ago and have since purchase another to go along with the first this past spring. Have also replaced the NH hay tedder with a Kuhn. You can drive 10 MPH tedding or raking with the teeth into the ground, but you get all the after affects that go with it!!! Normal PM, grease, check all the nuts and bolts and go. PS: Kuhn also has tine guards. I use them on our tedder.

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thurlow

08-18-2004 07:11:01




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 Re: Rotary Hay Rakes in reply to buff_man, 08-17-2004 17:10:48  
To each his own..... ..have got a Deutz-Fahr sitting out behind the shop with a 6 inch sweet-gum sapling growing up through it. Bought it when we used to put up a lot of hay.....several hundred acres per year. The thing worked great, but we parked it when the warranty ran out; absolutely could not keep it in the field because of broken parts, stripped gears, etc. At one time or another, have owned every "type" rake made; currently use a ten-wheel Dura-bilt "big-wheel". Would not recommend it for everyone..... ..to each his own.

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David in MD

08-18-2004 06:48:37




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 Re: Rotary Hay Rakes in reply to buff_man, 08-17-2004 17:10:48  
I've got a US made Pequea that I really like (gearbox is imported). Mine was used when I got it and I've used it for 2 years with no problems. It is very well made and I haven't found any apparent weaknesses. The Miller Pro rakes appear to be well made as well. Pequea has had a sale the past 2 springs where they sell the HR10 11' model for $4600 and the HR15 14' model for $6200.



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Ol Chief

08-17-2004 19:31:38




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 Re: Rotary Hay Rakes in reply to buff_man, 08-17-2004 17:10:48  
I bought a used one.Seems to me it is a Kuhn.Iit is miles from here at my other farm so I cant be sure of Mfg.name.AnywayI am posting this to encourage any one owning one to be very attentive of missing or broken pickup tines.My new old rakehad several missing or broken but we needed to rake so it went to work several days and did a good job.After several days I noticed my hired hand going more than normal operating speed soI wentto the field and stopped the music.Then I noticed that the dome had a circular crack six inches out from center almost all the way round. No doubt the unbalance caused the problem.It was an expensive repair it now works fine after replacing the teeth and some extensive welding and machine work.

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Yo

08-17-2004 18:51:17




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 Re: Rotary Hay Rakes in reply to buff_man, 08-17-2004 17:10:48  
I really don't buy the high maintenance story. I've had a Deutz Allis for 20 years and have had very minimal trouble. The most important thing to remember is THEY ARE NOT CULTIVATORS!!! If you keep the teeth off the ground they will not have high maintenance. My neighbour has on three occasions put teeth through his harvester. Very nasty. Kuhn is probably best built but I like the tine savers on the Deutz

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paul

08-17-2004 19:59:16




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 Re: Rotary Hay Rakes in reply to Yo, 08-17-2004 18:51:17  
They are very, very rare around 'here'. We have rolling hills, lots of rocks, and very uneven ground. Mostly alfalfa as the primary 'hay', with roadditch & odd shaped fields for grass hay. High humidity so a crimper haybine is used by anyone with more than 5 acres.

Some combination of the above must make these machines impractical 'here'.

There are a lot of dairies and high-quality hay makers around, so it is not an issue of people not caring to invest in the best. If it were a better mousetrap, they would be used here.

I understand north of 'here' there are dealers selling them & they are somewhat more common.

I guess I don't know the exact reason, but like any farm machine, different conditions makes for very different equipment being used. No one uses tedders here either. Just different worlds. :)

--->Paul

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GS

08-17-2004 19:15:35




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 Re: Rotary Hay Rakes in reply to Yo, 08-17-2004 18:51:17  
I priced one and they told me for the smallest one it was around $4800, VS. around $4500 for a new holland rolabar. The rotary was 9ft 6in swath. As with all machinery its how careful you are and how you take care of it.



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paul

08-17-2004 18:32:43




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 Re: Rotary Hay Rakes in reply to buff_man, 08-17-2004 17:10:48  
1. Really expensive.

2. Really high-maintenence.

3. For a lot of acres to pay them off, they are top of the line - but see if you decide to cut up your roll-a-bar after you price one.

--->Paul



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Tim(nj)

08-17-2004 17:53:30




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 Re: Rotary Hay Rakes in reply to buff_man, 08-17-2004 17:10:48  
I have seen many rotary rakes die in these field here. Gearbox failures, broken axles, broken tine arms, etc. Some brands are just lightly built POS from the factory. Others are better built, but they get an owner who hasn"t got the slightest idea how to use them right, and sets them too low, and goes too fast over rough ground. The trick with the rotaries is to buy a quality machine, and then learn to use it right.

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Loren

08-17-2004 17:49:43




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 Re: Rotary Hay Rakes in reply to buff_man, 08-17-2004 17:10:48  
I'd like to know a brand and model so I know what stlye you're talking about.



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John in IN

08-17-2004 18:20:00




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 Re: Rotary Hay Rakes in reply to Loren, 08-17-2004 17:49:43  
I bought a used Kuhn GRS25 Rotary Rake/Tedder combo last fall. I made a couple of rounds with my John Deere rolobar and then switched to the rotary. At first I wasn't sure but after a couple of rounds I was. I can't see me using anything but a rotary from now on. Makes the windrow much fluffier. It doesn't rope like a rolobar. I can't say for sure who has the best rotary but Kuhn is a well known one in my area. They have made discbines for John Deere and New Holland so I would beleive they would have good quality.

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Ken Macfarlane

08-18-2004 04:48:46




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 Re: Rotary Hay Rakes in reply to John in IN, 08-17-2004 18:20:00  
They are getting popular here. They are $$$ though. I think most of the damage can be done simply because you can go fast with them.

Ken



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Loren

08-17-2004 21:59:59




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 Thanks John. in reply to John in IN, 08-17-2004 18:20:00  
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