Sloppy rounds, embarassed

Tie comes in from 2 sides and overlaps in the center. Manually move arms toward overlap position and as soon as twine is picked up, start your walk back to the side and cut. May be something here in the overlap area.

New belts.

Checked the rollers yesterday and noticed some twine wrapped around one of the rollers at the top of the bale chamber. Must have been 10 rounds of twine wrapped tightly around this roller.

Otherwise everything in order. Did notice as I dumped the bales, that they tended to want to hang and might have tended to want to go up slightly before falling to the ground. I realize that the hay expands, sideways, once it is released from the chamber so that accounts for some of the friction.

At first I thought I was closing the gate before pulling away from the bale but I became conscious of not doing that and that wasn't the problem.

Wonder if the twine on the roller was snagging the bale twine and making the mess. Didn't see anything else that would do it but maybe the tie arms.

Ideas appreciated.

Thanks,

Mark

I have a Hesston 5585 that is manual tie as well.

You mentioned "Tie comes in from 2 sides and overlaps in the center. Manually move arms toward overlap position and as soon as twine is picked up, start your walk back to the side and cut."

On my Hesston everything sounds the same, however as soon as twine is picked up I continue the twine feeders to completely the other side then return back and cut.

This last cutting was real short hay and it helped to travel the feeders across the bale twice before cutting. It used a lot of twine but it was better than loose hay falling off the bale.

I don't think the rough belts would be a problem. I have one in the center (rough) to help starting the bale.

With only 10 rounds of twine on the roller I don't think this is a concern.

Just some suggestions. Hope it might help.

Clay

Funny you mentioned the tie arm starting positon as I used to do that (running the tie arms to the stop regardless of when/where twine picked up before starting the tieing sweep across) but I was using a heck of a lot of twine and decided to reduce the amount. I was cutting off handfulls at feeding time and going thru the rolls of twine rather fast. Also I reduced the amount of twine per bale and may have gone too far. Buttttt ttttt you may have a point and I will include that in the process the next time, both the sweeps and more twine.

Like the info bout your rough belt at center. Tells me that my thinking was on target by placing my roughest in the center. Course the mid range texture was at the ends to help insure a flat (not barrel shaped) roll.

The twine is gone from the roller so that potential problem is gone.

Enjoyed it. Thanks,

Mark

I don't always go the way I raked as I have an open cockpit and bale into the wind. That could have something to do with it as all bales are not damaged, but the ripping of the twine is what concerns me.

Thanks,

Mark

I don't always go the way I raked as I have an open cockpit and bale into the wind. That could have something to do with it as all bales are not damaged, but the ripping of the twine is what concerns me.

Thanks,

Mark

Thanks,

Mark

Would like to have this fixed b4 then.

Thanks,

Mark

Would like to have this fixed b4 then.

Thanks,

Mark

Thanks,

Mark

I am baling sudan and cutting real early. It is esssentially stemless with large leaves. Hence I have a lot of "chaff".

To keep the chaff out of the pickup for the next bale (which makes the bale not want to start), as soon as the tie starts pulling twine off, I stop the bale and move everything off to the side and restart (slowly) the pto and continue the tieing. Don't know it that has anything to do with it or not.

Also, just put on new belts and put 2 very aggressive "Chevron" pattern as the center 2. Don't see how, but the belt surface might tear the bale and twine on the way out because of it's texture. I could loosen the belts and move the chevron's over a couple of belts and see if the problem follows them but that is a lot of work.

Looking thru the belts prior to dumping, I see nothing out of the ordinary and the twine seems to be uniform across the bale.

Thanks,

Mark

I back to the side rather than straight back so that after I dump, I can run the baler around the chaff and the pickup fingers don't scoop it up.

My new belts are really rough 2 in center then 2 per side of slick, then 1 rough on each end for a total of 8 ea. 5" belts. Might be something to the belts, but the ripped twine is still the curiousity. Spent $1100 on belts and if I would have gotten all "really rough...chevron pattern" would have cost $1600.

Thanks for your responses.

Mark

I back to the side rather than straight back so that after I dump, I can run the baler around the chaff and the pickup fingers don't scoop it up.

My new belts are really rough 2 in center then 2 per side of slick, then 1 rough on each end for a total of 8 ea. 5" belts. Might be something to the belts, but the ripped twine is still the curiousity. Spent $1100 on belts and if I would have gotten all "really rough...chevron pattern" would have cost $1600.

Thanks for your responses.

Mark

Thanks,

Mark