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Binder Info??

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Chas in Me

08-16-2004 18:20:32




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I just bought a grain binder and would like some info on it. It is an International Harvester. made in Hamilton, Ontario. The model is Type ED 2
There is a number on the tag which I am assuming is the serial number. That number is B-32643 and the
words
Attachment Complete.
It has the fat drive wheel and PTO drive for the operation.
Can anyone tell me:
When it was built?
Was it built with PTO or might that have been added later?
Where would I find canvass for it?
I plan to use it, it's not going to be hidden in a barn. I belong to a new farm museum up here in northern Maine and will use it to show how grain used to be harvested. I don't have enough $$ to restore it right now, but I do want to make it work. The museum has a threshing machine and lots of knowledgeable help. We now need to get my machine up and running.
Any help will be greatly appreciated. This is my first post here, so in addition to all of the above, I would like to say Hello.
Thanks,
Charles In Maine

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stilljustplainjim

08-18-2004 19:02:37




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 Re: Binder Info?? in reply to Chas in Me, 08-16-2004 18:20:32  
Chas, try B.W. Macknair & Son in Lewistown, PA, 717-543-5136 or www.macknair.com.
I think Norman is the guy you want to talk to.

Your model "ED" may be different than the "4E" I referred to in my earlier post...don't take anything I say as gospel. International built a zillion different models, partly from innovation and partly from the fact that they bought up a lot of manufacturers, kept some models, dropped others etc etc etc.
You might try www.smallfarmersjournal.com
for a reprinted manual. They are good folks.
Also try to get ahold of Sam Moore thru the folks at Rural Heritage (probably www.ruralheritage.com). Sam is a wealth of information on rusty iron.
There are also a couple of International magazines with associated websites but tend to be heavily tractor oriented. I live in Ontario about 2 hours from Hamilton. I might be able to rustle up some fellows more knowledgable than I.
Let me know if I can help.

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justplainjim

08-18-2004 18:45:52




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 Re: Binder Info?? in reply to Chas in Me, 08-16-2004 18:20:32  
Chas, try B W Macnair, somewhere in PA, for new binder canvas. I'll try to post a link later.

from Wendel's "150 Years of International Harvester"...the number 4-E was built from 1938 to 1956 and was Harvester's last grain binder model. It featured PTO drive and reinforced reel. Pneumatic tires extra. Production totalled 69,495 units."

Chas, you have a good binder, take care of it.



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Jimmy King

08-17-2004 11:33:24




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 Re: Binder Info?? in reply to Chas in Me, 08-16-2004 18:20:32  
Charles, I am 62 years old and I don"t remember a lot about a binder, BUT. My Granddad bought a new IHC PTO binder when I was very young I did not ride it much, but I have driven the tractor pulling it a bunch. You said something acbout the fat drive wheel, that is the bull wheel, if the binder is a PTO it should not drive any thing. I remember it had the platform canvass then the elevator, had a upper and lower canvass. It carried the grain to the knotter. four leavers, one to raise and lower the real, one for the platform, one to move the real back and forth, and one to move the knotter back and forth to place the twine where you want it. Then the peddle with a strap on it to dump the bundle carrier. The bull wheel was bigger than the grain wheel because 80% of the weight is on it and for flotation it still rode like a bucking horse on rough ground. The cutter bar was raised and lowered by hinging the binder on the tounge. There should be a canvass curtin across the back of the platform about 18 inches high.

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RickL

08-17-2004 07:11:39




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 Re: Binder Info?? in reply to Chas in Me, 08-16-2004 18:20:32  
I have a unit that has MCCormick /Deering/New Ideal all on it. Would not take much tio make it run. Its for sale also if interested,hope to have it operating next summer otherwise. For pic of unit go to www.RickSales.com and you will see it on home page of antique catergory. Always been shedded until last month but now is back under roof. I had a contact where to get canvas if I can located it again. Rick.

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Michael Soldan

08-17-2004 05:49:14




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 Re: Binder Info?? in reply to Chas in Me, 08-16-2004 18:20:32  
Chas, we had an I-H binder when I was a kid. Ours was powered by the bull wheel only , there was no PTO system on any binder that I had experience with including Masseys. I know where at least three of these binders are sitting. I discovered one in a fence row about a mile from the farm when I was out snowmobiling one day, another is in a bush about a half mile from me and a neighbour two roads over from me has one behind his barn in the weeds. Just about every farmer owned one in our neck of the woods and the there are lots to be found for parts. The Mennonites are known to produce canvasses for binders. If you have Amish or Mennonite communities near you that would be a good source. I hauled several binder canvasses out of an old shed near here two years ago and gave them to a neighbour who has a Massey binder, they were in useable condition. Getting new ones made would be the wisest chioce...good luck with the binder....Mike in Exeter Ontario

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