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Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand

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Joe Rhodes

08-10-2004 19:25:10




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I AM INTRESTED IN BUYING A KING CUTTER BRAND BUSH HOG FROM TSC, I WOULD LOVE TO BUY A BUSH HOG BRAND OR WOODS BUT I CANT AFFORD THEM. CAN ANY ONE TELL ME ANY THING ABOUT THE KING CUTTER BRAND.
TSC SELLS A 6 FOOT MODEL FOR ABOUT $750. I KNOW YOU GRT WHAT YOU PAY FOR BUT ARE THESE ANY GOOD.
THAKS.
JOE




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RichZ

08-12-2004 19:17:04




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to Joe Rhodes, 08-10-2004 19:25:10  
I have a King Kutter rotary cutter that I've used for 4 years. I use it often and hard, it cuts 2" diameter saplings without blinking. I use and abuse it, it never let me down.



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TomPa

08-12-2004 14:10:15




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to Joe Rhodes, 08-10-2004 19:25:10  
I have a KK and am plesed with it. I have used and abused it. Yes, every year and when you first get it, check and tighten all the bolts. I like the "I"beam sides. Mine has bulges from rocks and what ever hitting it on the inside. never a thing came thru. I would not trust a plain sheetmetal sides to contain like that. The top is not a real problem. most of what hits goes to the sides. I made a curtain for the front of mine. welded on some angle and used heavy bailer belting. If you can afford the heavier duty gear box than the one rated for your tractor, you would be better off. my 2 cents worth.
TomPa

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John A.

08-11-2004 20:23:31




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to Joe Rhodes, 08-10-2004 19:25:10  
Joe, There are basisly 3 types of (shredders/mowers). Finish, Light, and HDs.
Most of the newer mowers around are the Finish/light duty type. Best used in clean pastures! Where the biggest thing it cuts is a sapling about 3/4 in dia.
That includes 90% of the shredders being pulled today. These shredders have light deck material, with little to no frame support. Gear boxes that arn't wort the time it took to install on the shredder. 50 hp or so. These shredders are not ment to EAT... rocks, stumps, logs, tires, and the list goes on and on and on.
If you intend to shred brush of any kind, spend the extra money and get a HD one. I have been looking for a new 7 ft HD shredder, with 120 hp gear box with braceing and deck material to match. You are looking at + - $1900 for a good one. No shredder is indestrucrable, but if the beef is there then it will take more use and abuse in the normal run of your pasture.
I have an ol JD, 3pt, 7ft, 227. It has been the best shredder I have ever pulled.
I Have abused it, Pulled it with a 966 IH, and this shredder has eatten more cedar trees than I can count. Yes, I said trees, 8ft wide,10 ft tall, multi trunk cedars here in Central Texas.
Lift the shredder as high as it will go and back into it, slowly,.. let down, slowly. It is amazing what this ol darlin would eat and spit out. Not to mention the stumps, logs and 5gal. bucket sized rocks too.
So do some home work, there are good older shredders out there that will do a good job for you at a reasonable price, or go new and be looking at about 1900 dollars. You have got to have the larger hp grarboxes if your place is rough,or has lots of obsticles. My $.02
Good Luck,
Later,
John A.

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Mac

08-11-2004 17:20:00




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to Joe Rhodes, 08-10-2004 19:25:10  
I wasted $700 on one and was disgusted. The budget KK is lame. It won't do anything but pasture work. If that's ALL you're gonna do it might last a few years if you keep the grass cleaned off(top and underneath). Don't even come within a foot of a sapling or it will rattle apart. Worst part is, there's nothing to weld to. I've seen import car fenders thicker than the decks on these machines. You're better off taking that money to a county/city auction sale and buying a used high end cutter.

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i was so disgusted i had

08-11-2004 17:24:54




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to Mac, 08-11-2004 17:20:00  
what is wrong with the forum????? ????? ????? ?



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Mac

08-11-2004 17:02:11




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to Joe Rhodes, 08-10-2004 19:25:10  
I wasted $700 on one and was disgusted. The budget KK is lame. It won't do anything but pasture work. If that's ALL you're gonna do it might last a few years if you keep the grass cleaned off(top and underneath). Don't even come within a foot of a sapling or it will rattle apart. Worst part is, there's nothing to weld to. I've seen import car fenders thicker than the decks on these machines. You're better off taking that money to a county/city auction sale and buying a used high end cutter.

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Gary in TX

08-11-2004 13:13:49




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to Joe Rhodes, 08-10-2004 19:25:10  
Joe,
I bought one used a few years ago and it mowed pretty good I thought. Its not a heavy duty unit meant to be able to cut much in the way of brushy type stuff down. I really didn't have any complaints with it. I got the opportunity to buy back a 5' Rhino that we had bought new and I got it back and sold the king kutter. Depending on what your going to be cutting is whats going to really make the difference if its going to hold up. You can tear up anything no matter what brand it is if you abuse it. Its one of those deals where common sense plays a big part. Thats all I've got to say about that, now where is that dang box of chocolates????? ?

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TimFL

08-11-2004 07:07:15




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to Joe Rhodes, 08-10-2004 19:25:10  
I think would we should have a King Kutter discussion forum all to itself. Or should we just have a headline that "A KK is a budget machine that is not really good quality" for all to see. How many more KK horror stories do we need to hear? They make em cheap to sell em cheap.



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txblu

08-11-2004 09:40:49




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to TimFL, 08-11-2004 07:07:15  
Aw comeon Tim. We hash over a couple dozen topics a thousand times, but it gives us something to do and someone to talk with. Otherwise Kim could just load the site with a sign that says Questions? Go to the Archives.

Mark



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TimFL

08-11-2004 11:20:44




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to txblu, 08-11-2004 09:40:49  
Well when you put it in that perspective I guess you are right. We gotta have some'n to talk about. And it is nice to have someone to talk to. Its great to see new people coming to the sport of old tractors. Like an evergrowing community.


So anyway I got me this new old tractor, think it is an 8 some'n or other, Ford or Fordson not quite sure. Got a couple of acres to mow. Need a mower for the old 8 and was down at TSC and they have this really nice looking unit called a king kutter. Does anyone have an opinion of the king kutter? Or is there another brand better? Heard some'n about a bush hog or brush hog, what about those? And is bush hog a name brand or just a general reference? My buddy has a woods, does a nice job and he beats the tar out of it, but a little to pricey for me. The other thing I notice is the shaft out the back, I think they call it the PTO, quits turning when I press the clutch. Why is that? Is that something to do with a live PTO? What can I do to make it turn all the time? What about this over running clutch thing? Help me out. My grass is getting deep.

Havin fun
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txblu

08-12-2004 06:23:55




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to TimFL, 08-11-2004 11:20:44  
You are kidding with the last part of your post..... ..... .....aren't you? Grin

Mark



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txblu

08-12-2004 06:23:39




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to TimFL, 08-11-2004 11:20:44  
You are kidding with the last part of your post..... ..... .....aren't you? Grin

Mark



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BobMo

08-11-2004 06:46:02




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to Joe Rhodes, 08-10-2004 19:25:10  
Its a free country and you can waste your money any way you want....but, good luck..... ....



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Allan in NE

08-11-2004 06:43:14




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to Joe Rhodes, 08-10-2004 19:25:10  
Just another note:

Like all equipment, these things are put together "on-site" and usually by kids who really don't know what they are doing.

I've never seen a new piece of machinery yet that did not need to be given the "once-over" at every connector, bolt and fastener before being put into service.

Out of the box, they are just "thrown together".

Just a thought,

Allan



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Russ Smart

08-11-2004 20:00:47




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to Allan in NE, 08-11-2004 06:43:14  
At Fleet Farm you put them together yourself, at home, which is the way I prefer to do it. If you can't put the few parts together to save a couple hundred bucks, then go buy a bush hog , or some other big name, (and price) I think king kutter is a good piece of equipment for what you pay for them!



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txblu

08-11-2004 09:35:22




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to Allan in NE, 08-11-2004 06:43:14  
Didn't want to say that but you are absolutely right!

Mark



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txblu

08-11-2004 06:32:44




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to Joe Rhodes, 08-10-2004 19:25:10  
I bought the 6' with the 65 hp gearbox having ripped the gearbox out of a shredder once before.

On at least 2 occasions, the 3rd member support came off the deck such that the tractor was only connected at the top and one side. Needless to say this was a very pecarious position and could have flipped the tractor. Resulted in bending the tractor interconnect brackets all up. So I had to rebuild them and brace them up better as they were pretty flimsey where they were bolted together.

I used proper sized hardware (theirs was smaller than the holes provided in the steel) and welded the end of the bolts after installation.

Swinging yoke didn't work well over terraces and things so I ripped all that out and put a chain between the front and rear (rather than their steel braces which bent) and solved the trailering problem.

Just last week the tail wheel disintigrated and had to replace that.

It drags like a big tub. It is just a pain. But it cuts good....but all this other stuff. Would not buy another.

Mark

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John (MO)

08-11-2004 06:23:49




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to Joe Rhodes, 08-10-2004 19:25:10  
I'd watch for a used cutter that is heavier duty than the lite King Kutters. Their (KK) heavier duty models aren't all that bad for the price. You'll be working on the KK lite model a lot or replacing it and spend a lot more money on them over the years than if you buy a heavier model to begin with. If you are going to cut any brush with it, you'll be better off and money ahead to buy something heavier than anything KK makes.

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Allan in NE

08-11-2004 06:53:56




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to John (MO), 08-11-2004 06:23:49  
John,

Let me add to your comments.

The one thing I don't like about this KK is that they do not come equipped with a forward throw-curtain; holes are there & drilled at the proper locations, just no darned curtain.

When running in heavy saplings, a sharp pointed gizmo could possibly be thrown forward into a tire. Not a good setup in this regard.

Even with the light-weight Woods, units all have a curtain, at least.

Allan

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John (MO)

08-11-2004 07:24:24




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to Allan in NE, 08-11-2004 06:53:56  
I think the chain curtain is an option, depending on the dealer. I know the local farm stores just stock a few basic models, but another short line equipment dealer orders more, what I'll call user friendly models of KK equipment. Of course you pay for the upgrades.

By the way, a friend of mine just bought a KK model just like in Allen's picture. He's just going to use it to mow pasture weeds after his cows have eaten the grass down. The cutter ought to last a long time doing that. I on the other hand, often try to cut almost any brush that I can get the 70 hp tractor to push over. KK just doesn't make a model that will stand up to that use, or maybe they consider it abuse. However some of the older cutters from AC, MF and JD don't seem to be too bothered by it, if you hold your ground speed down.

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txblu

08-12-2004 06:27:30




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to John (MO), 08-11-2004 07:24:24  
John,

I found a use for my old round baler belts. I use two thicknesses and the 5" is just about right. They flex just enough and don't get hung up in the blade like chains do.....besides chains are expensive....takes a mile of chain to fill the front of a mower (it seems).

Mark



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Allan in NE

08-11-2004 04:18:13




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 Re: Looking at purchaseing a king kutter brand in reply to Joe Rhodes, 08-10-2004 19:25:10  
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Hi Joe,

I bought the 84" Cat II heavy duty KingKutter because it appeared much "beefer" as compared to the same sized Woods when the two were parked side by side. It is rated at 80 hp and as I recall, it tipped the register at around $2K.

The little KK's just seem a little anemic to me and a lot of the guys here confirm this. If you are just using it to trim lawns however, they might be okay. Dunno.

Allan

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