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Belt Twist on Vermeer 504

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JJL

08-08-2004 05:22:41




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I understand the twisted belts on the front of a Vermeer baler are so you can see into the chamber. The baler I just got arrived that way, but sometime in the process of baling about 60 bales with it so far, one of the twists rotated up so it is now on the top of the baler.

Question is, what caused the twist to relocate like that, and what does it indicate about the belts themselves. Are they too loose? Worn? Another thing I've noticed about the belts is that all of them track to the side of the baler, so much that they are curled slightly where they run up against what look to be small guides to keep the belts in place. I figure this may mean there are some bearings going on the rollers that are slanting the rollers slightly. I have found two other easily accessible bearings that are going, so figure the ones that are hidden can easily have problems, too.

Can someone give me a quick lesson on round baler belts? This is the first time I've operated one, or even been around one.

Thanks!

JJL

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JJL

08-09-2004 17:15:46




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 Thanks! in reply to JJL, 08-08-2004 05:22:41  
Thanks for the lesson. James, if I keep this baler I'll have to get a manual for it. This one came without it. I looked at the adjustment roller you spoke of today and this is an area on the baler that looks a little beat up. Didn't touch it, though, since you said I needed the book for it. Didn't want to make things worse. In any case, I baled two more bales with it and when I started up for a third bale the large belt on the twine box side folded over on itself and brought everything to a quick stop. Time for me to call the dealership for a service call. I hope to get a good lesson on the belts when the service guy comes (hopefully) tomorrow. I didn't realize I was in that much trouble with them already or wouldn't have gone to the lot today with it.

Thanks to both of you for the advice. Sure is great to have someone to ask. :)

JJL

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Hay Dr

08-08-2004 19:37:32




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 Re: Belt Twist on Vermeer 504 in reply to JJL, 08-08-2004 05:22:41  
The main cause for a twist to migrate away from the front of the baler is too small of a windrow and you did not build you core uniformly when starting the bale. Make a double windrow or use a V-Rake and your troubles will go away. It is easy to bring it back to the front. Just go the rear of the baler and cup or fold the belt so the edges are touching. Wrap a twine string around the belt while cupped and tie the twine. Turn your PTO on while the baler is empty & engine at idle speed and the twine string will travel around and catch the twist and bring it to the front. When you see the twine turn the PTO off, cut the twine string and your twist will be back up front.

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James in NC

08-08-2004 08:23:57




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 Re: Belt Twist on Vermeer 504 in reply to JJL, 08-08-2004 05:22:41  
The belts will always track to the low side of the bale. If you have a level bale in the baler and the belts are still tracking to one side there is an adjust you can make on the second to bottom tailgate roller. Get your manual out when you make this adjustment. The twist in the belt more than likely moved due to an unlevel bale. If you know you have bad bearing replace them they can burn your baler up. A good way to check for bad bearing is to bale a bale then go around to each bearing and put your hand on the metal near the bearing and move it towards the bearings. If your hand get real hot then you have bad bearing. Check the 5 bearings in the cam track on the pick-up reel. If the belt lacings look bad or if you want to do some good preventive maintance remove your belts and get them all the same length and relaced. Put the side that is curled up to the opposite side that it came off of. The belts don"t need the twist to run so take it out if you want.
James

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