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Scarifiers for following up with Disks?

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EWB

07-18-2004 05:12:43




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I am looking for a way to break up the soil at a greater depth than can be reached with my disk harrows. I am not looking for a subsoiler but something a little less intense (and less horsepower intensive). Several area vegetable farmers use Land Pride scarifiers (model SF2577) and like the results. I will be using a 35 horsepower 2-WD tractor for this so some options will be out of my range. Please advise. Thanks

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pappy

07-19-2004 09:10:49




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 Re: Scarifiers for following up with Disks? in reply to EWB, 07-18-2004 05:12:43  
I have had good luck with a Ferguson SKO 20 spring cultivator. Pulled by a Ford 631. Used less horse power with this six footer. Here in Missouri these old cultivators are cheaper than discs.



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JMS/MN

07-18-2004 23:20:19




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 Re: Scarifiers for following up with Disks? in reply to EWB, 07-18-2004 05:12:43  
Disc harrows compact soil. Field cultivators work it up. Most people on these boards talk about plows and discs, and I don't understand why they don't consider FC's. FC's are more popular than discs in major farming areas. Less maintenance, less compaction, etc. What do the big guys use, and why? They run disc chisels behind stalk choppers on corn ground, FC's on soybean ground. And in the spring they run FC's. If you have an older tractor of 35 hp, like an Allis WD, M Farmall, etc, you should easily pull an 8 foot FC. M should pull a ten footer. Discs are made to cut sod, and leave ridges- FC's make a seedbed. If you need to really bust compaction, make a toolbar and hang two chisel plow shanks on it- your hp should handle that. Then hook to a field cultivator, and with enough hp, pull a tine or boss harrow behind, and you have a good seedbed.

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paul

07-18-2004 19:48:44




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 Re: Scarifiers for following up with Disks? in reply to EWB, 07-18-2004 05:12:43  
I believe you are wanting a small but good field cultivator. Probably not the 'new cheap King Kutter junk' as in a different thread, but a good old fashioned real ag field cultivator.

You can get chisel points for deeper working, narrow shovels for a good compromise, or wide duck feet shovels for killing weeds.

--->Paul



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Allan in NE

07-18-2004 07:27:11




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 Re: Scarifiers for following up with Disks? in reply to EWB, 07-18-2004 05:12:43  
EWB,

Just reading between the lines, it sounds like you are fighting soil compaction due to heavy traffic and maybe even irrigation?

You didn't mention what type of soil, where you live or if you 'single crop' in a year's time, but I think you are on the right track with that ripper.

But, I don't think I'd follow it with a disc (unless you have a lot of surface trash to contend with), because, believe it or not, a disc will actually add to your compaction woes.

If you single crop and live in an area where you have freezing and thawing during the winter months, I'd sink that ripper clear to the clamps in the fall, let the ground freeze and thaw over the winter months, then smack it with a field cultivator in the spring like Indy says, just prior to planting.

That freezing and thawing action on the previously ripped soil will leave a very nice aerated bed.

Just my view,

Allan

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Indydirtfarmer

07-18-2004 06:25:41




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 Re: Scarifiers for following up with Disks? in reply to EWB, 07-18-2004 05:12:43  
Try a field cultivator..... without the disc. They will work deeper than a disc in most cases. They'll leave the ground ready to plant. You needn't pull TWO impliments at once that way.



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