Farmhand Loader on 4020

Thanks for taking the time to snap the pictures; worth a thousand words and all that.

Rick had it right from the get-go; and I agree with him and all the others.

The angles are all wrong on this head. Everything is trying to pivot around the same axis with only about an inch or so of actual "throw" for your tilt cylinder to work against.

However, how's about if you extended that center bracket straight back about a foot, or maybe even 15"? Is there room and clearance for the upper part of the cylinder to 'swing' back a little?

This arrangement needs more of a longer 'lever action' in my view,

Nice lookin' rig you have there, by the way.

Allan

John

Here's a picture of the two. The one on the Int. is the model 2 , the one on the Ford is the model 22. Your's should look like the one on the Ford.

Have you got a picture of that thing? The smaller Farmhand loaders usually have 5 cylinders.

2 for lift, 2 for tilt and 1 for Grapple. Also, you should have three control levers, I would think.

I've never heard of any big bale ever stopping a Farmhand; they are a fairly rugged loader.

Are you tied to the tractor hydraulics or a separate pump?

Sorry, I just can't see your particular "Farmhand" brand loader in my mind's eye. There should be a model # plate on the front boxed framing.

Allan

Aw, Ha! That explains it, 'cause it sure didn't look like a Farmhand front mount to me. LOL

Did they buy out the complete Dunham line? The reason I ask is because I used to have a 14 or 15' Dunham packer that was a monster when it came to preparing a field.

I'm gonna have to have another when I get this dirt bought, if I can find one. Maybe AGCO is the place to look?

Thanks for the info,

Allan

What he is describing sounds like that single cylinder mounted in the upper center for use with a grapple fork. A lot of guys put a bale spear out there in place of the grapple and it works very well; did it myself for quite a number of years.

It sounds like a F227 or F235 front mount, given the fact that he is using the tractor's hydraulics; but he says the center cylinder is longer & mounted to the bucket; that makes it sound like an old F-11.

Either way, that Farmhand should very easily handle a big bale. In fact, it should just "toy" with it.

He certainly has a big enough tractor, but maybe he has hydraulic pressure problems? Who knows?

Dunno, would sure like to see a picture of the loader.

Thanks for the hollar,

Allan

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This spear did not come with the loader that's why I had to make the bracket. Again, it all works good until I get a load on it. Thanks alot for helping me out.
Ray.

This is a close up of my fabricated lower bracket on the tilt cylinder.
Ray

Here is the loader I am talking about. I'm gonna try to send more pictures. I ain't to swift at this yet.
Ray

Nice job on the bracket. Will have to side with Rick on this one. The location of the pivot is too close to cylinder bracket(same plane). No leverage. That single cylinder set up will work, but at best you will need to relocate that bracket up toward the spear. That probably means relocating the other end of the cylinder as well.

thanks

Randy