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Planting Alfalfa this Fall

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JC

07-15-2004 11:23:26




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I have never planted alfalfa in the fall so I need some pointers. The farm is located in the Platte Valley in west central Nebraska.
Would I have better luck broadcasting or drilling the seed? How many pounds per acre should I use? What is the best way to calibrate a spreader for broadcast seeding? Any advise will be helpful.
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JC




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jd68

07-17-2004 20:32:39




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 Re: Planting Alfalfa this Fall in reply to JC, 07-15-2004 11:23:26  
im in massachusettes...( not big hay country)but thats how alot of us put down new plantings here.
use a nurse crop of oats..... ..plant 2nd - 3rd week of august and forget it till spring. the oats protect the seedlings through the winter.
I get my best stands from fall seeding.



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Allan in NE

07-15-2004 15:26:21




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 Re: Planting Alfalfa this Fall in reply to JC, 07-15-2004 11:23:26  
Hi JC,

Never heard of this one; 'course there's a lot of things I havent heard of. :>)

Aren't you afraid of winter kill on that new baby plant? Even with spring planting, it takes a lot of 'nurse crop time' to get that new alfalfa plant rooted down & established.

Will be interesting to see the responses to this thread.

Allan



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Joe in IN

07-16-2004 06:45:23




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 Re: Re: Planting Alfalfa this Fall in reply to Allan in NE, 07-15-2004 15:26:21  
Most of what I have read says fall is the best time to plant due to decreased competition from weeds. Also most of what I read says 10 -15 pounds if drilled and 20 if broadcast. The field I planted this spring I drilled with 25. Cost s little extra but I wanted a thick stand. I drilled going East-West than North South and then NW - SE. So obviously I lowered the seeding rate so I could make 3 passes. What didn't drown inthe 12 inches of rain we had one weekend looks good.

Even here in Indiana most of the test plots are planted in late August. You need at least 8 weeks until good conditions for the alfalfa to get big enough to surviive the winter. From my memory Neb gets really cold, 10 weeks may not hurt.....

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Allan in NE

07-16-2004 08:23:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Planting Alfalfa this Fall in reply to Joe in IN, 07-16-2004 06:45:23  
Joe,

You fellas in your country get the rains.

Out here in western NE, I think planting in the fall would be akin to flushing the money down the toilet.

It might work if the land is under a pivot, tho. Dunno.

You mentioned seeding rates. A guy can get the stuff too thick also and when this happens, it is competing with itself and just will not produce the tonnage.

I think a good rule of thumb is: drop 10 to 12 lbs per acre and hope that half of it takes root.

Just my view,

Allan

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paul

07-15-2004 15:34:39




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 Re: Re: Planting Alfalfa this Fall in reply to Allan in NE, 07-15-2004 15:26:21  
It's real common here in southern Minneota - fall seeding. After oats, peas, sweet corn, or for the brave, corn silage. Should get it planted by the last of August, & we typically get September rains, and you have a good field of alfalfa the next spring. There is less weed pressute this time of year, so no nurse crop.

Last 2 years several are planting oats, spray for weeds, harvest the grain, harvest the straw, & then plant alfalfa. Better grain, better weed control is what I'm told.

--->Paul

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Allan in NE

07-15-2004 15:40:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Planting Alfalfa this Fall in reply to paul, 07-15-2004 15:34:39  
Thanks Paul,

You have the same exact growing season as we do here; so I would think it should work in NE as well then.

Like I said, there's a lot I haven't heard of. :>)

Allan



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paul

07-15-2004 19:26:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Planting Alfalfa this Fall in reply to Allan in NE, 07-15-2004 15:40:30  
Same here! :) I about fell over when 2 neighbors planted alfalfa _after_ the oats 2 years ago, but after thinking about it, not such a bad plan. Because of a lot of peas & sweet corn grown locally, there is a better chance of having bare ground in very early fall, & that has been common.

--->Paul



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JMS/MN

07-15-2004 11:35:37




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 Re: Planting Alfalfa this Fall in reply to JC, 07-15-2004 11:23:26  
When you say drilling the seed- do you mean using a grain drill with a grass seeder attachment? All seeder attachments I've seen on drills do not run the grass seed into the opener. They broadcast it on top, thus the need for a relatively fine seed bed. I pull a packer behind to push down seed and lumps, and it takes fewer pounds of seed for a good stand. With a packer, 10-12 lbs. per acre. Without, at least 15 lbs.

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