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MF 12 bale broke a needle

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EKR3

07-12-2004 19:24:36




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I bought a MF 12 baler at an auction recently as a backup to my main baler. It looked good, and had fresh hay in it. So I gave it a try. Baled the 1st 3 bales OK, short but tied. Then "BANG" it broke the right needle. What happened? Why did it happen? Aaany ideas on what I need to do? Can the old needle be brazed. If not can I buy a new needle, where, how much? Thanks for all your help. I hear the MF12 is a decent maching when running right. True?
Edd

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Rob

07-13-2004 08:34:38




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 Re: MF 12 bale broke a needle in reply to EKR3, 07-12-2004 19:24:36  
"WHAT & WHY DID IT HAPPEN?"
Most likely it was out of time or jumped out of time due to a loose chain or something. As with previous post, the manual is critical to setting the timing. I'd be interested to know what you're quoted for a new needle. I also agree welding is not the best answer. It has as much to do with the shape (curve) of the needle being correct as the strength of the weld. Also, check the needle stop to make sure it's set rite as well. HTH

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Bkeepr

07-13-2004 04:20:19




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 Re: MF 12 bale broke a needle in reply to EKR3, 07-12-2004 19:24:36  
I had 2 MF 10s, my very first balers. Bought the first one, had troubles and bought the second as a parts source. Turned out it ran better than the first, so I went the other way.

Over the course of just a few dozen bales with the first baler, I broke 2 needles. Yes they can be welded, but it takes a very good welder to do it. They're cast iron, and I had several welders turn me down saying they couldn't be fixed. Finally was referred to a guy who manufactures repair parts for the local aluminum plant and is considered the best metalworker around--even he wouldn't promise he could fix them, but said he'd try, and did it. They held up well afterward. (He said the trick was to pre-heat the entire needle first, weld carefully while the needles were very hot, and then cool over a long time period.)

Anyway, you can also buy new needles from your local Massey Ferguson dealer. I bought a pair of new ones when I was searching for a fixer for the broken ones. They were very pricey as I recall, perhaps $100 each or maybe a little more.

After this fiasco, I bought the operator's manuals. I spent lots of time with knotter adjustments and timing. Never broke any more needles after that, but no matter how careful I adjusted, I never got the things to tie more than about 75% of the knots properly. Sold both balers at a big loss and bought an old NH 66 at an estate auction for a fraction of the money, and it's what I'm using today.

Hope your experience is better than mine.

Tom A

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