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stan

07-04-2004 09:52:27




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Help! Ok, have an old Massey ferguson baler with a Wisconsin twin on it. Have used this blankety blank thing four years now. First two took head off and manually unstuck the valves to get it going. Last year, in an attempt to remedy the problem, overhauled the engine and put in new valves and guides etc. Started up and ran great, baler broke, but that wasn't the engines fault. This season, after putting it away with marvel mystery oil injected into intake as instructed by old wisconsin guru, valves are stuck again. Runs on two at idle, but one under load. Will pull head today and hope it doesn't rain before I get the thing running again and baling. Ok, is there some way to keep the wisconsin's from sticking their valves every season? Obviously the marvel oil thing doesn't work. What was the fix back when these things were in common use?
Any help is appreciated.
Stan

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JB

07-05-2004 20:59:19




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 Re: Wisconsin engines in reply to stan, 07-04-2004 09:52:27  
Hi, we never had one on a baler but had a V4 on a NH forage harvester. Shutdown in the fall was add some engine oil to the gas (like a 2 stroke) and run it until it ran out of gas. Then take all 4 spark plugs out and pour engine oil in the spark plug holes while slowly cranking engine. Never had a stuck valve.
Takes a bit more cranking to get it started in the fall again.
I do the same every spring with my snowblower and
have never had a problem.

My 2 cents
JB

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stan

07-06-2004 14:08:49




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 Re: Re: Wisconsin engines in reply to JB, 07-05-2004 20:59:19  
Appreciate this and all the responses. Took head off and got it running yesterday. Salvaged most of the hay crop. Will definitely try one or several of the suggestions. I like the idea of mixing oil in the gas. Believe I will try that and the lubricant painted on the valve stems. Between the two, maybe will be simpler next season. (have had the head off the darn thing every season I've used it so far). Thanks again. Stan

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Don

07-04-2004 20:38:10




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 Re: Wisconsin engines in reply to stan, 07-04-2004 09:52:27  
I have good luck with snowmobile fogging oil injected into a petcock installed in the intake manifold. Before seasonal storage I will fog the engine until it smokes. Ocassionaly throughout the year I will twist the crankshaft just to rotate it some. Has worked great for me. Don



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Tommy D6-8U

07-04-2004 20:07:04




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 Re: Wisconsin engines in reply to stan, 07-04-2004 09:52:27  
Stan,

Back in the days when these engines were used more, there was also leaded gasoline that tended to lubricate the valve stems. I have used an anti-sieze compound on the valve stem when installing them and it seems to help. It usually is a graphite paste type stuff; its available from NAPA among other places. The brush-on type works better than the spray on type I think. Also works good on the head bolts on the Wisconsin to keep them from siezing up. Hope this helps

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Dan

07-04-2004 17:12:48




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 Re: Wisconsin engines in reply to stan, 07-04-2004 09:52:27  
Stuck valves over period of non use were common problem on Wisconsin. I think it was because they are air cooled and ran hot. My dad worked for a JD dealer when all balers seemed to have wisconsins. He often was called to start them up on the spring. He was told to run oil into the intake while engine running in fall, if you put enough oil to kill engne that is ok. Sounds like you did this but maybe oil didn't have a chance to get down along valve guides.

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Earl S.

07-04-2004 13:56:18




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 Re: Wisconsin engines in reply to stan, 07-04-2004 09:52:27  
I assume you ran a compression check. spark plug ?? broken valve spring??



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Bob

07-04-2004 11:16:10




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 Re: Wisconsin engines in reply to stan, 07-04-2004 09:52:27  
Run the engine occasionally, or at least crank it over frequently in the off-season.



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