Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Attention Forum Users: On the 28th of December 2023 at 9:00am Central Time, we will be taking the forums down for maintenance while we prepare the new forums for your use. Please click here for more information.

Implement Alley Discussion Forum

Baler question

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
screaminghollow

07-03-2004 22:16:25




Report to Moderator

I got a deal on an old NH 78 hayliner ($65.00) and this stupid city boy actually got a wagon load of bales this afternoon. The pick up fingers tear out and suck in uncut green grass. As a result, the bales have bits of undried grass dispersed through them. I suspect I need to adjust/raise the pick up. The wheel can be lowered about two inches from it's current position. (Since I have only about a third of the manual, I'm not sure if this is correct). The bales are also packed tighter than any I've ever seen. They come out almost as dense as hay cubes. I dried the hay for three days, raked it twice a day and the bales , which are only 36 to 40 inches long, weigh about 80 lbs. This seems far too heavy for orchard grass hay, not to mention heavier to stack and handle. Most small square bales in this area, run 40 to 60 lbs. Any Advise would be appreciated.

[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
EZ

07-05-2004 15:37:07




Report to Moderator
 Re: Baler question in reply to screaminghollow, 07-03-2004 22:16:25  
Sounds like you didnt let the hay dry enough. First of all, you should only have to rake it once. After you cut it, let it dry almost til its dry all the way through other than a little moisture on the bottom of the windrow then rake it and after letting it sit for a couple hours it should be ready to bale. Also when cutting, lay the windrow as wide as your rake can handle to dry faster.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Ibby

07-05-2004 06:23:11




Report to Moderator
 Re: Baler question in reply to screaminghollow, 07-03-2004 22:16:25  
I've got several NH balers of that style. My take on your problems is a bit different. If you're picking up green grass, I'd say it was a mowing problem. There shouldn't BE any green grass under your windrows if it was mowed clean and tight.

If your baler sat outdoors, unused for years, the hay chute might be quite rusty and rough. Until it polishes up, loosen the bale tension screws. Once it gets smooth and shiny, tighten them up until you get the firmness you want.

One of my balers had the tension screws turned ALL the way in when I bought it. The seller pointed out he did that to keep the screws from rusting in the off season. It may have been that way with you, as well.

I don't have inside storage for my baler. so at the end of every season, I pressure wash it TOTALLY clean of chaff and dirt, let it dry, and use a cheap siphon spray nozzle to coat EVERYTHING with used oil. Keeps it in great shape.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Bkeepr

07-05-2004 04:50:49




Report to Moderator
 Re: Baler question in reply to screaminghollow, 07-03-2004 22:16:25  
Screaminghollow:

I don't have a 78, but I do have an older NH 66 and I believe they're fairly similar. First off, you can order a reprint of the operator's manual from New Holland and it is well worth the money. It'll tell you a lot about the machine itself, as well as hints for getting it to run right with your hay. Call 'em at 800-635-4913, I think my manual was about $10 or less.

You're right about the pick-up adjustment. On mine, though, both the wheel and a lever are used to set this so you might try looking for the lever as the wheel is secondary. My lever has about 5-6 holes in it, and you put a pin/bolt through the one that holds the pickup at the right level for your crop.

I've had the same problem with heavy bales. Your hay is still too wet. It'll likely mold a little, but still makes ok bedding if it does. Loosen the tension springs all the way and it will help some...when I've got to get in hay that isn't 100% dry yet, I'll start with them tight enough to form bales, then loosen them all the way and produce really light (30 lb) bales for my own use...these don't seem to mold quite as much as bigger, tighter bales but I don't try to sell them cuz people might think they're getting cheated.

good luck,
Tom A

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Dan

07-04-2004 09:38:56




Report to Moderator
 Re: Baler question in reply to screaminghollow, 07-03-2004 22:16:25  
May be a problem with tensioner as mentioned below. Sounds like you hay may still be too wet. If you take a handfull of grass hay the twist it with the other hand most of the stocks should break off in about 3 twists. I suspect the hay won't keep well and bales may lighten up over time and become loose.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
SPEEDWAY SQUARE BALING

07-03-2004 22:32:21




Report to Moderator
 Re: Baler question in reply to screaminghollow, 07-03-2004 22:16:25  
screaminghollow,
that sound familiar to me, i would lower that wheel to where the pickup teeth are at least 3" above the surface of the ground notjust touching the grass but the actual ground surface, now for the bales being heavy thats another problem, check ypur press on the top chamber rail if it's got a lot of tension on it, it will make them heavy, if not much tension is on it i would check to see how many wedges are in the inside of the chamber( i know a guy that uses no rail tension with a press but has 7 sets of wedges in the chamber (14) total, and his bales are the perfect rectangular cubes at @ 62 lbs. but he has got to run his baler in second gear with a 1'x3' row).
speedway,
broken arrow,ok

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy