Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver

Attention Forum Users: On the 28th of December 2023 at 9:00am Central Time, we will be taking the forums down for maintenance while we prepare the new forums for your use. Please click here for more information.

Implement Alley Discussion Forum

Hay elevator

Welcome Guest, Log in or Register
Author 
Brandon

07-03-2004 19:15:28




Report to Moderator

We bought a hay elevator and it did not have a motor or a pulley on it. We put a 12 inch pully on the elevator and a 2 inch pulley on the motor. The motor is a 2 hp 1725 rpm. The problem is that it spins to fast.Does anybody have any ideas on how to slow it down? Thanks




[Log in to Reply]   [No Email]
Ross

07-04-2004 14:33:44




Report to Moderator
 Re: Hay elevator in reply to Brandon, 07-03-2004 19:15:28  
Could you put some kind of rheostat on the motor and speed the motor up or down as you needed it?
Ross



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
JMS/MN

07-04-2004 21:46:16




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Hay elevator in reply to Ross, 07-04-2004 14:33:44  
Rheostats work fine on DC motors- like on the agitator motors of bulk milk tanks, but I don't think that they work on AC motors, like those that drive conveyors, etc.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Paul Janke

07-04-2004 09:03:02




Report to Moderator
 Re: Hay elevator in reply to Brandon, 07-03-2004 19:15:28  
Mine have an aluminum case with the input shaft, and intermediate shaft, and the output shaft. It is roller chain and sprockets in the case. I use mine for firewood, usually not near a source of electricity. I put hydraulic motors on mine, and use a variable flow divider so I can control the speed. I can run them at whatever speed is needed for the job, but they don't end up running fast and empty just wearing themselves out as they would if they were one speed set up for the worst conditions.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Bob F

07-04-2004 05:47:01




Report to Moderator
 Re: Hay elevator in reply to Brandon, 07-03-2004 19:15:28  
we have an old JD bale elevator that is stepped down twice. It has a small sproket on the motor going to about a 8 to 10 inch sproket on a crossover shaft. The shaft has a small pulley on the other end which drives another large pulley that is mounted on the bottom drive shaft of the elevator. The belt drive has an idler pulley to engage and disengage the elevator by way of a lever. If you want more specific pulley and sprocket dimensions, let me know and I'll take a look later today. This setup still has plenty of speed and power. I don't remember offhand how big the motor is but I'll check that out later also if you want.

Bob F.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Del

07-03-2004 20:22:14




Report to Moderator
 Re: Hay elevator in reply to Brandon, 07-03-2004 19:15:28  
Barn Yard Physics 100: A 2in. pulley on a1725 rpm shaft would be traveling something like 10850
in/min. A 12in. pulley driven by a belt 10850in/min would be turning about 290rpms. A 18in. pulley driven by that same belt would turn about 192rpms. Try a bigger driven pulley. I slipped up one time when I was running a table saw, cement mixer, corn elavator and small edger with only two motors, a 1725 rpm and a 3450 rpm motor put the 3450 on the corn elavator and sent ears of corn twenty to thirty feet over the corn crib.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
SPEEDWAY SQUARE BALING

07-03-2004 22:20:44




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Hay elevator in reply to Del, 07-03-2004 20:22:14  
do ya think that pointing the elevator about half way up the crib it would have hit the spot you was looking for, my elevator is 32' and has a 2 1/2hp tecumseh engine with a loose belt and a single pulley and it takes the hay bales up at just the right speed to wear out two stackers up top. she just keeps on working and until she breaks i'm gonna use it the way it is.
speedway
broken arrow,ok

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Ernie

07-03-2004 19:21:29




Report to Moderator
 Re: Hay elevator in reply to Brandon, 07-03-2004 19:15:28  
Brandon, I can go out and see what I have on mine if you want me too.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Ernie

07-04-2004 05:53:08




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Hay elevator in reply to Ernie, 07-03-2004 19:21:29  
Mike, my elevator has two shafts on it. Two inch on the motor and 13 inch on first shaft with 2 inch pulley on back side, that goes to another pulley that is 10 inches.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
JMS/MN

07-04-2004 17:33:51




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Hay elevator in reply to Ernie, 07-04-2004 05:53:08  
Del's numbers (above) are right- actual first example is 287.5 rpm. Your example with two inch motor, 13 inch driven gives a ratio of 6.5:1. If the motor is a 1725 rpm, that gives a jackshaft speed of 265 rpm. (divide motor speed by ratio). Second reduction is 5:1, final shaft speed is 53 rpm.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Brandon

07-03-2004 20:11:45




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Hay elevator in reply to Ernie, 07-03-2004 19:21:29  
Ernie that would be great. The only thing I can see that would slow it down more would be to put another shaft on it and reduse it down again.Thanks



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Del

07-03-2004 20:31:12




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Hay elevator in reply to Brandon, 07-03-2004 20:11:45  
Our elavator is setting in a field beside the house so I took a flashlight and ran out and checked. I think ours is an old Mayrath elavator and it has the second shaft. The small pulley on the motor drives a larger pulley on a shaft that has a small sprocket on the other side that drives a larger sprocket that runs the elavator.



[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
Oklahomatractorrebuilder

07-04-2004 00:36:37




Report to Moderator
 Re: Re: Re: Re: Hay elevator in reply to Del, 07-03-2004 20:31:12  
All normal hay conveyors have a extra shaft to reduce the speed of the chain. Some have 2 or more to provide even more reduction. We found one that had been stripped and built our own shafts out of 3/4 cold roll and flange mount bearings and converted it to all roller chain drive to avoid the belt problem. We made ours so the ;ower shaft on the elevator turns around 50 rpm but still can work 2 people to death on the top end. Another advantage to the lower speed is also the gain in torque you get from the gear reduction. Our 60 ft elevator is only using a 1/2 horse motor and will still handle a solid load of bales.

[Log in to Reply]  [No Email]
[Options]  [Printer Friendly]  [Posting Help]  [Return to Forum]   [Log in to Reply]

Hop to:


TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Copyright © 1997-2023 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy