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New Farmer

07-02-2004 09:08:52




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I was thinking about planting some oats next spring as a cover crop for alfalfa. Is there any market for the oats or should I just cut it early and bale the oats?




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paul

07-02-2004 22:02:24




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 Re: oats in reply to New Farmer, 07-02-2004 09:08:52  
Yea, folks have started to grow oats, harvest it, & plant alfalfa after in fall here. Seems to work good. Yho the past 2 years my spring planted with oats cover looks better than their fall fields.... But we've has damp cool springs, & very dry falls, not real normal....

I plant 2 bu oats per acre in spring as a cover crop, harvest for oats, bale straw. Works well for me. You always get the 'bad' year when things don't work out. But normally works out fine.

If you cut the oats for hay - and it makes good hay - cut it EARLY before you see but just a head or 2 in the whole field. If you see 10% heads, you waited too long. You want to err too early than to wait another 2 days & flub this. The stems will have all the protien you want, livestock will love it. Wait too late, & the rats will eat all the grain out, & the livestock won't like the stemmy low-energy stems you baled. Trust us on this one. Cut it when it seems way too early, & you'll have good quality oats hay. Can be hard to dry out tho, need a crimper/ moco/ haybine.

--->Paul

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Dick2

07-03-2004 07:56:33




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 Re: Re: oats in reply to paul, 07-02-2004 22:02:24  
We always used oats for a cover crop for alfalfa and sweet clover. Sweet clover was plowed under the next summer for green manure crop, when somerfallow was a common practice. We cut the oats on the green side with a windrower and combined them 3-4 days later when they were dry enough. Cutting oats on the green side reduces shell-out in the field and you end up with higher test weights (38-40 lbs/bu). The cows and horses liked the slightly green oat straw - we put out double the amount for bedding because the always ate half of it.

Back in the days when we used to thresh a big strawpile in the cowyard, the oats were threshed first and then the barley and finally the wheat. We had to watch the cattle as the ate their way into the strawpile over winter. When they got into the oat straw, they would tunnel in so far we had to collapse the tunnel so they didn't get smothered in a cave-in.

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JMS/MN

07-02-2004 21:37:06




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 Re: oats in reply to New Farmer, 07-02-2004 09:08:52  
Location, location, location, and what the rest said is also true. Talk to people in your area to determine a market. Do you have proper equipment to plant it, harvest it, market it? Can you hire someone? Straight seeding to establish hay is a good option as well- either later in spring or early fall works here.....



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Del

07-02-2004 17:43:47




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 Re: oats in reply to New Farmer, 07-02-2004 09:08:52  
Ask around and see if a nurse crop is needed in your area. For twenty years or so I thought it was a requirement for a good stand of hay. For the last twenty years I have not been using nurse crops. A few times I've planted in the spring without a nurse crop and have gotten good stands of alfalfa. Since springs are so unpredictable and wet I've been planting in August. Fall planting allows me to get one or two cuttings of hay off the ground, get lime and fertilizer applied and get the fields in a little smoother condition before planting. Also I'm not going back on the field 60 to 90 days after planting to harvest a nurse crop. I felt that cutting, tedding, raking, baling and hauling in the bales was hard on those young plants.

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JD68

07-02-2004 17:30:53




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 Re: oats in reply to New Farmer, 07-02-2004 09:08:52  
I nurse croped 7 acres of alfalfa with oats,cut it early in milk stage. Made good feed for horses or hefiers..... ....but the rats loved it
put the hay up in late june, by january they (the rats) had an interstate highway system going thru the barn. An old timer told me not to hay it but just chop it off..... ...I should have listened.



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Tim(nj)

07-02-2004 12:39:53




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 Re: oats in reply to New Farmer, 07-02-2004 09:08:52  
Depends on where you are. I get $2.50 a bushel (bulk) for oats here (New Jersey), and $3.00 a bale for a 40 lb. small square of oat straw. You can't give oat hay away around here, even though it makes good hay. People have convinced themselves that horses won't eat it.



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Coloken

07-02-2004 13:13:35




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 Re: Re: oats in reply to Tim(nj), 07-02-2004 12:39:53  
Same rummer around here, is that oat hay has too much grain and bad for horses. I all ways thought that oats was "the thing" for horses and no way to over feed, like other grains. I'm a cow man, myself and consider oat hay the best there is for those old bossies. Only thing is, mice sure love the stacks.



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Joel Harman

07-02-2004 16:46:26




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 Re: Re: Re: oats in reply to Coloken, 07-02-2004 13:13:35  
sounds like you are waiting too long to cut. It should be in milk stage when cut.That way there is still some nutrition in stems & head isn't fully formed.



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