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Jeff

06-27-2004 16:47:12




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I have a 98 NH 575 baler, and have a few problems. Just got it and at first it wouldn't tie on the left- replaced the pin that holds the gear driving the twine disc. Then I was able to bale 40 bales perfect, but now it won't tie on either side. I think the knotter is out of time, but don't know what to do about it.
I'm thinking of trying to trade for a 348 John Deere, any thoughts?




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Scott

06-28-2004 19:02:15




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 Re: NH 575 baler problems in reply to Jeff, 06-27-2004 16:47:12  
Check if the spring is broke that goes from the frame of the knotter back to the twine finger lever, there is a hole on each lever but it only uses one spring, this will not leave it tie on both sides.



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Rick

06-28-2004 06:43:45




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 Re: NH 575 baler problems in reply to Jeff, 06-27-2004 16:47:12  
Jeff; I have been there done that. I always ran the Deere units till last season picked up a 99 570 New Holland. You have a very large capacity baler you just need to get it dialed in on the knotter part it is nothing major. Turn it by hand and see what is going on. the only diff between your unit and mine is pickup width. If you bale lots of straw the Deere units the auger feed is limiting factor there,the New Holland is much more aggressive in the feeding area. Other than that there is not hardly any diff between Deere and New Holland in my experience. I did lengthen the chamber on my machine however. I bouhgt my baler from fellow who bought it new and never used it,he died. Another fellow bought it and could not get it to bale, I bought it from him and found out in the first attempt to bale what was wrong. He fought it all the year he had it. All it was was feeder fork and packer fork were out of time. I retimed everything in that area and have not stopped since with it. You just need to learn your baler and you will be fine with that unit. You mentioned kicker I would eliminate that part and use bale basket wagons instead. I used those for over ten seasons and loved them. I know use accumulator system. Will be baling tomorrow, another 1500-2000. Rick

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Jeff

06-28-2004 15:26:22




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 Re: Re: NH 575 baler problems in reply to Rick, 06-28-2004 06:43:45  
Rick, thanks for the advice. What is a bale basket wagon, and how does it work? Around here everyone uses throwers.... but I would love to have a better system



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Rick

06-29-2004 06:00:52




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 Re: Re: Re: NH 575 baler problems in reply to Jeff, 06-28-2004 15:26:22  
Jeff; I grew up behind the kickers. After running these units I would never go back to a thrower.It is a 3 wheeled v shaped wagon that you hook up direct behind baler and the bales are pushed up the front of it and they drop in. Will hold 85 to 100 bales depend on your particular length bale. If you look under e-z trail wagon company they build the ones I used. Also go under www.RickSales.com and look under new equipment and you should find a pic of one. This is my new web site due to demand of various stuff I have been moving. The wagon will basically dump itself if choose or you unload it like you do now into elevator by hand but the bales will all slide to you. MUCH EASIER. You will hear lots of horror stories on these but They do work and do not break bales as stories say. You need to set them right and you will have no problems. Like I said I ran 3 of these units over ten seasons and loved them. I now run accumulator setup. The units I had are now operating on a farm in Ohio. Rick ps give me call if like 319-257-6764 I can give you the tricks then on these units. Be baling today again so give me ring in early morning or later in evening if like.

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David

06-27-2004 20:41:31




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 Re: NH 575 baler problems in reply to Jeff, 06-27-2004 16:47:12  
A friend who spent time as a field rep advised that if you have knotter problems a good way to see what is happening is to watch the knotting process while an assistant rolls the flywheel slowly after tripping the knotter. I can say that it works. Once the bill hook wasn't holding the twine because the cam was wrapped with hay and another time the twine holder was too tight and the twine was torn during the knotting process.

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RickB again

06-27-2004 17:40:13




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 Re: NH 575 baler problems in reply to Jeff, 06-27-2004 16:47:12  
maybe your local dealer has a manual in stock, or their shop has an extra copy in a file somewhere, or they will copy a few pages to help get you going. A '98 baler shouldn't really need too much in parts to make it tie unless it was in a large grower's operation or neglected. "It doesn't tie" doesn't give anyone here enough info to be much help. Most folks dissatisfaction with 575's comes from inconsistent feeding rates.

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Jeff

06-27-2004 18:57:46




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 Re: Re: NH 575 baler problems in reply to RickB again, 06-27-2004 17:40:13  
I do have a manual, unfortunately I am not enough of a mechaninc to know what to do...
As far as not tying... The twine is held in the twine discs, the hay goes through, and then the needles come up, and it cuts the twine- but never forms the knot!
I'm doing only about 30 acres this year, but next year I will have over 150... so I am concerened about having a reliable baler. Do you think the 575 and 72 thrower is up to that kind of acreage?
Thanks for all the advice, it is great to have some helpful people to ask!

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Tim(nj)

06-27-2004 20:08:12




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 Re: Re: Re: NH 575 baler problems in reply to Jeff, 06-27-2004 18:57:46  
If you trade on another baler, and you have problems with it, then what? The 575 is designed for larger acreages of hay. The baler can handle 150 acres, but you better ask yourself if you can. Study up on your baler mechanics, you'll need them, even with machines less than 10 years old. Service manuals are a help, as they usually explain more than the ops manuals how to fix problems.



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RickB

06-27-2004 17:00:54




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 Re: NH 575 baler problems in reply to Jeff, 06-27-2004 16:47:12  
You probably won't like the Deere any better unless you read the manual for it. There is a wealth of info on timing and adjusting your baler in the operator's manual. Unless you fiddled with the chain just behind the flywheel, or jumped teeth on the bevel or spur gears, the knotter is probably in time; especially if it tied on one side and it cycles without shearing bolts. 800-635-4913 is the number to order factory NH manuals. 86641879 is the part number for the 570/575 op manual. Should run under $30 US plus shipping.

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