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Trailering a baler home

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mark

09-10-1999 14:34:30




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Have bought an old IH 46 T baler and want to bring it home. Need to move it about 75 miles. I do have a 16 foot trailer with 12" or higher side rails. What is the best way to move. trailer or tow. Don't really know the condition of the bearing for highway towing. tires look pretty good. If I can get it on the trailer what is the best way. The former owner has a ford with front end loader and a bobcat. If we manage to get it on the trailer how can I get it off since I dont have either.

help please

no smart comments onless they are really bright

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Jody

09-19-1999 15:13:01




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 Re: trailering a baler home in reply to mark, 09-10-1999 14:34:30  
Pull it home just be sure to take it easy, and remember it's gonna ride rough.



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JK MN

09-15-1999 09:21:19




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 Re: trailering a baler home in reply to mark, 09-10-1999 14:34:30  
At the dealership I was at, (NH & IHC) the only time a baler was on a trailer was because it was either new and unassembled or something was wrong with it, or it was a NH66, (NOT A SUPER 66), or a NH67, as those came from the factory with bushings as wheel bearings. We towed balers from 2 to 150 miles behind the pick-ups and most times at speed limit. You just have to be aware of the extra width. And with used equip, we usually carried spare tires. (Also be aware that one spare will not fit both sides of a baler, as most have a 6 hole wheel on the heavy side and a 4 hole wheel on the light side. Any way you do it take your time and be careful.

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JK MN

09-15-1999 09:18:06




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 Re: trailering a baler home in reply to mark, 09-10-1999 14:34:30  
At the dealership I was at, (NH & IHC) the only time a baler was on a trailer was because it was either new and unassembled or something was wrong with it, or it was a NH66, (NOT A SUPER 66), or a NH67, as those came from the factory with bushings as wheel bearings. We towed balers from 2 to 150 miles behind the pick-ups and most times at speed limit. You just have to be aware of the extra width. And with used equip, we usually carried spare tires. (Also be aware that one spare will not fit both sides of a baler, as most have a 6 hole wheel on the heavy side and a 4 hole wheel on the light side. Any way you do it take your time and be careful.

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Micheal

09-13-1999 13:53:08




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 Re: trailering a baler home in reply to mark, 09-10-1999 14:34:30  
I recommend NOT towing at all! Beg, borrow or otherwise get a donehue-style trailer and load it and trailer it!! We towed our NH 67 about 75 miles when we bought it, and towed it between farms for 2 years, but it is too hard on bearings and your liable to snap a 'heavy-side' axle in the middle of what. Donehue-style trailers are sweet for these things as they are 9 or more feet wide (baler is 8'6" wide) and toggle right flat on the ground for loading. Most implement dealers or area farmers that have them are willing to rent them to you as long as you are good to it. I am making a 'baler trailer' this winter out of an AC combine axle to trailer ours with next year. If you every followed a baler down the road from the rear you won't want to tow it behind anything besides a tractor again.

just my .02 worth.

micheal

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B.C.

09-13-1999 06:22:55




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 Re: trailering a baler home in reply to mark, 09-10-1999 14:34:30  
I once towed a NH66 home and regretted it. The hub on the bale chamber side had been replaced with a plain bearing, which was fine for the field but not for towing. Didn't notice that at the auction. So be sure the hubs are adequately greased and in fact are up to it.

Taking the time to replace implement tires with highway rated ones is worthwhile, even if the new ones are recaps or (reasonably) worn.

Make damn sure that hitch pin doesn't come loose. Think about an appropriatly sized grade 5 or 8 bolt, lock nutted and at least blue Loctited. Rigging some sort of safety chain, even better a pair of them, would be a good idea, too.

Obviously, if you can travel on a decent secondary road, during daylight and on one of the slower days, that'll help too.

The slower you're traveling when the gravel truck cuts you off, and that lopsided thing back there spins you around, the less spectacular the wreck will be.

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B.C.

09-13-1999 06:21:31




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 Re: trailering a baler home in reply to mark, 09-10-1999 14:34:30  
I once towed a NH66 home and regretted it. The hub on the bale chamber side had been replaced with a plain bearing, which was fine for the field but not for towing. Didn't notice that at the auction. So be sure the hubs are adequately greased and in fact are up to it.

Taking the time to replace implement tires with highway rated ones is worthwhile, even if the new ones are recaps or (reasonably) worn.

Make damn sure that hitch pin doesn't come loose. Think about an appropriatly sized grade 5 or 8 bolt, lock nutted and at least blue Loctited. Rigging some sort of safety chain, even better a pair of them, would be a good idea, too.

Obviously, if you can travel on a decent secondary road, during daylight and on one of the slower days, that'll help too.

The slower you're traveling when the gravel truck cuts you off, and that lopsided thing back there spins you around, the less spectacular the wreck will be.

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Gerald J.

09-11-1999 02:47:44




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 Re: trailering a baler home in reply to mark, 09-10-1999 14:34:30  
You might consider changing the tires to road rated tires. I've done that on my MF-12 to get better floatation. I went up a couple tire sizes, to something like a 265R15 on the drive side and 5:60-15 on the pickup side. I had to add a spacer for that rim. True implement tires are only rated for 20 mph. And OLD implement tires aren't good for that much.

Then its a good idea to tie a come-along between the front of the baler tongue and the right front corner so it doesn't sway back and forth a lot. I've sometimes used a small ratchet nylon strap from the front of the tongue of an implement to the end of the pickup bumper to cut down on swaying from a loose hitch pin. The pin hitch isn't nearly as stable at speed as a ball that fits tight.

Gerald J.

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Jim(UT)

09-10-1999 21:34:36




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 Re: trailering a baler home in reply to mark, 09-10-1999 14:34:30  
I also bought an old baler far from home. The dealer assured me it would be no problem towing it on the highway. So I cruised on up the 260 miles in my sister's borrowed Power Stroke, hooked her up and 2 days later had to ditch it 80 miles from home. What a nightmare. The biggest problem was the implement tires on the take up side cannot take heat. Had to stop every 20 minutes or so and let them cool (this was in July, 100F). Next weekend when I went back to get it, I did it at 4am so I could get home before traffic got heavy and the road got hot. If you are only going 75 miles with it you should be ok. The dealer who told me I could go 260 miles should be shot. Anything over 100 miles, find a way to trailer it.

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Dan

09-10-1999 20:03:19




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 Re: trailering a baler home in reply to mark, 09-10-1999 14:34:30  
If you don't know the condition of the bearings you'll need to check and re-grease before you take it out to the field, so why don't you just do it when you go to pick it up? I'd rather spend an hour or two re-packing the bearings than fight getting it on a trailer and back off, for no more than 75 miles. I'd try to borrow a spare tire, just in case. We pulled our baler many miles behind the pickup at about 50 mph with no trouble.

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Tim(nj)

09-10-1999 20:12:57




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 Re: Re: trailering a baler home in reply to Dan, 09-10-1999 20:03:19  
My JD 336 was towed about 50 miles. Repack the bearings, and keep your speed down. Remember, balers were not intended to travel at 60 mph! Mine towed well at 35 mph. Have to watch how it fits on the road, too, especially in high-traffic areas. People tend to misjudge how wide a machine is and how fast it is moving, so mark it well with an SMV and flags (or flashing lights, if you can). Good luck

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paul

09-11-1999 10:13:01




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 Re: Re: Re: trailering a baler home in reply to Tim(nj), 09-10-1999 20:12:57  
Be careful with the Slow Moving Vehicle sign. You are just as likely to get a ticket for having it on and going over 30 mph as to get a ticket without it on & going slower.

Lights & flags are a good idea.

--->Paul



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